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Photo of Glorious shows what looks like the Linoleum deck with the pattern shown above

Same for Furious:

they work for you as saved on your computer as cache or whatever but others cannot see them til you posted them differently so other people can see them now.

Well I logged in on a different PC (Different OS, Network etc) and it still works.
But I re-upladed them so should work now.

the class was -relatively -lightly built--and known for buckling deck plates * when the main guns were fired

therefore not efficient for their purpoise
hence conversion to mine-layers, carriers etc

To my eye the strip look to be too large to be lino holding down strips--ala IJN ships
and also a mst pecuiar pattern--all lii usually being laid in a rectangular format

theses diagonal strips have ends inboard of the longitudinal--which would leave an 'open' lino joint

To my eye-- ---it looks like ' strip metal' deck plate bracing *--as the strips are much higher than I would expect
a lino-holding-downs strip to be

The Battle Cruiser Repulse also had deck bracing in a similar vein on her foredeck

note the similarity of the diagonals fwd

Just a thought...

JB

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As I recall, those areas just painted steel, and not linoleum (or whatever material) coated. They're obviously not wood planked. Aren't those for foot traction for the sailors working in those areas? Not for basic walking, I mean for heaving on lines, working the anchors, etc. Every few feet there's a raised bar affixed to the deck to brace your foot against.

- Sean F.

Okay, apparently these are indeed steel decks with I presume dark grey paint, while the original plans called for Linoleum which layout was shown in my previous post eg vertical lines with a few horizontal ones

My friend found a very rare aerial view of HMS Courageous which apparently shows the shelter deck being covered in Linoleum while the Main and Forecastle deck seems like steel indeed!

Tzoli!-- that is a great image ! I wish I had had that 16 years ago when I built mine


Agree lino on bridge platforms , not sure about entire sheletrdeck

the triple mount guns, empty shell casings cascading down etc
I think Lino may be sub-optimal.? (

what about the coir matting?

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( I think the white stuff on aft deck, riifs of buildings and turret tops is light snow...)

of course--maybe we will never know
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Hello,

I've read the recent posts and a few of the older ones on the subject of the decks of this group of ships with interest and have a few comments to make.

First, Tzoli's friend's query about the colour of the linoleum (better known as "corticene") used by the Royal Navy (RN) at the time and later. It was the colour of milk chocolate. That is now commonly accepted and has been for some time in the model-making fraternity: some model paint manufacturers do manufacture the colour specifically for that reason. In confirmation of my foregoing, my father served in the RN between the late 1930's and the early 1960's and remembered it as being that colour. I joined the RN in 1960 and left in 1995. It was still being used (ashore) during that time: I scrubbed it; in the early stages of my career and walked on it later. It was still of that colour and if anyone still cares to look at some (in England), it covers the floor of the Waiting Room of the heritage railway station at Beamish Open Air Museum. Be that as it may, I have the feeling that the stuff may have varied slightly in shade from batch to batch: but not by that much.

Now, was it used on the weather decks of the subject group (class) of ships? The only way to find out (if the information still exists) is to check in either the Ship's Covers: held in the National Maritime Museum or possibly in documentation held in the archives of the companies that built the ships. From what I've seen of photographs shown on this website or available in published books I personally doubt it. It would have been difficult/expensive to "work" it around the various obstacles/fittings on the deck and still have the "Etna" strips. There is no evidence that it was. Therefore, those decks must have been painted or had some other preparation laid on the bare steel. BUT: now look at the upper picture in Tzoli's post of 29 July. To my mind, the outboard side of the starboard side of the Quarterdeck of HMS GLORIOUS, extending from the ladder to just abaft "Y" mounting looks as though it has a strip of corticene laid on it. Why? because this area would be the one normally used for ceremonial departure/arrival of the officers and important persons, especially if the starboard accommodation ladder was rigged. However, others may disagree.

Finally, I've looked at the link on Jim Baumann's post of 30 July concerning "coir matting." Coir matting used in the RN was woven with a strip of canvas about 2inches wide sewn around the edge to hold the material together. When new, it was of a ginger colour but in use became dirty and became much darker. There is photographic evidence of the stuff elsewhere (RA Burt's "British Battleships 1919 - sorry, I've forgotten the last year!) being used as a deck covering to enhance foot hold, especially around open gun mountings. However, its use at sea must have died out post World War 2. I did see it used ashore in my time as a deck "runner" to cover corticene/linoleum but only there and that darkened in use as well.

Hope this helps.