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Siciliano, what time period for the New Jersey, ww2 or post war?

Note that Hank made a considerable alteration to the hull as the kit has some serious form problems, especially in the stern. I'm not sure what they did this as accurate hull information is available.

A somewhat relevant question.
Does anybody know information of the 12ft small gun directors which can be seen on the Montana class models on their 1940 form? One on he 3rd turret offset and one directly in front of the bridge tower on a tall sponson?

Maybe USS north Carolina and Washington carried the same on the early service lives?

It's not clear but they not look similar to the Mark 33 12ft Cruiser directors.

It appears these are the Mk. 35 12' rangefinders as seen on the BB-55 plans as of 1941. Here is an elev. & plan view of these items:


In the Equipment Tabulation Table on that drawing, this item (#173) is listed as 12 ft. Rangefinder, Mk. XXXV - Ord. Drawing #142196 - good luck finding that!!! If you do, I would love a copy!!! Sorry, I don't have any scale on these drawing snippets - but I believe there is enough dimensional info on the plan dwg. to figure that out.

The MONTANA model in 1941 had removed both of these FC directors, so it's highly doubtful that either one would have actually been installed.

Hope this helps,

Hank

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HMS III
Mocksville, NC
BB62 vet 68-69

Builder's yard:
USS STODDARD (DD-566) 66-68 1:144, Various Lg Scale FC Directors
Finished:
USS NEW JERSEY (BB-62) 67-69 1:200
USN Sloop/Ship PEACOCK (1813) 1:48
ROYAL CAROLINE (1748) 1:47
AVS (1768) 1:48

those are 12' range finders as per this link.
BB-67 - BB-71 Montana Class General Arrangement (1941) https://archive.org/details/bb67classga1941

Thank you!
Does anybody have a collection (name only and/or data) on the various Rangefinder directors of the USN?
I know these few:
??ft Mark 18 (Pensacola Class)

??ft Mark 24 (Northampton class)

??ft Mark 27 (Portland class)

??ft Mark 31 (New Orleans class)

12ft Mark 33 (Destroyers Farragot to Benham) (On cruisers AA)
??ft Mark 34 (Cruisers of the 1930's)
12ft Mark 35 (Porter and Somers class)

15ft Mark 37 (Porter and Somers class as refitted and Sims onward) (On cruisers AARF)
26,5ft Mark 38 (South Dakota II class onward)

??ft Mark 51 (Bogue class)

??ft Mark 54 (Des Moines class)

??ft Mark 67 (United States class)
15ft Mark 68 (Mitcher class onward and Knox, Belknap classes)

21ft Mark ?? (On South Dakota I class 1920)

Little help here. I’m trying to research BB62 during her round bridge period. I can’t seem to find any good information regarding the spot 1 port / starboard wing extensions added after launching. I’m presuming that they were added the same yard period when the bridge was enclosed.

Does anyone have shipyard photos and or detailed drawings?

Thanks,
Sergio Morariu

Sergio wrote:
"Does anyone have shipyard photos and or detailed drawings?"

The bridge was probably modified prior to her shakedown cruise in the Fall of 1943. Here are two photos from Oct. 43 that show the 011 Level wing additions and her round bridge -




Hope this helps!

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HMS III
Mocksville, NC
BB62 vet 68-69

Builder's yard:
USS STODDARD (DD-566) 66-68 1:144, Various Lg Scale FC Directors
Finished:
USS NEW JERSEY (BB-62) 67-69 1:200
USN Sloop/Ship PEACOCK (1813) 1:48
ROYAL CAROLINE (1748) 1:47
AVS (1768) 1:48

Sergio,
Here is what the 011 Level Air Defense Station looks like in Plan View (Overhead) -

This is from the 1955 BB-62 Booklet of General Plans. That part of the upper conning tower had not changed since the wings were added in 1943. Ignore the hand written notes as they apply to changes that were to be made to NEW JERSEY in 1967 (this particular copy of plans I had scanned at NARA II and they probably came from the Philadelphia Navy Yard). Sorry, I don't have any plans older than this version. Here is that portion of the conning tower in Elevation View -

Again, ignore the mast & RADAR as these would not have been correct for the 1943 time frame.

Hope this helps!

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HMS III
Mocksville, NC
BB62 vet 68-69

Builder's yard:
USS STODDARD (DD-566) 66-68 1:144, Various Lg Scale FC Directors
Finished:
USS NEW JERSEY (BB-62) 67-69 1:200
USN Sloop/Ship PEACOCK (1813) 1:48
ROYAL CAROLINE (1748) 1:47
AVS (1768) 1:48