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Hi Guys,
Rick, Mike, Devin and Willie,
I appreicate where this thread is heading, and I appreciate you people. Thanks.
Mike is a fellow SDIPMS'er and I'm fortunate enough to see this very nice man each month!
More to come, Tony

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Hi Guys,
I just got off of the DVIC website, and found no pics of Brewton from the 70's. Mid 80's and on, there were some great shots.....

For what it's worth.........Date Shot: 1 Jan 1993
A view of the repair ship USS AJAX (AR-6) moored at the Boton pier. The three frigates nested with the AJAX are the USS BREWTON (FF-1086), USS WHIPPLE (FF-1062) and USS OUELLET (FF-1077).
Location: NAVAL AIR STATION, CUBI POINT, LUZON PHILIPPINES (PHL)
This must be very soon before Brewton goes to the Taiwanese Navy.
Notice no CIWS. Notice also the bulwark around the forecastle previously "added-on" appears to be gone. I wonder if this was a repair/mod before going to Taiwan, but I would not know why.


Here she is again........Date Shot: 1 Sep 1990
A port quarter view of the frigate USS BREWTON (FF-1086) in the gulf during Operation Desert Shield.

Clearly, there is a CIWS in place. I assume her last fit; given the date.

Here she is again.......Date Shot: 9 Apr 1986
A port quarter view of the frigate USS BREWTON (FF 1086) anchored off the coast of San Diego.
Location: CORONADO ROADS, CALIFORNIA (CA) UNITED STATES OF AMERICA (USA)
In this picture, the mast is painted black.


I'll post some pics of the WEM 1/350 Knox kit in a moment......
Tony

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Hi Guys,
Here she is...........
Before being unwrapped....

After being unwrapped and waterlined......



Can't wait to get started........
Tony

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Hi Guys,
I just got finished browsing DVIC, and found a picture of FF-1086 Brewton as she appeared, (from the stern..anyway), in 1982. There is no BPDMS, and still not yet a CIWS.
So, I have decided to build Brewton without the BPDMS. Once again, I will be building her as she appeared WestPac 1976-1977.
Here is Brewton "..Crew members aboard the frigate USS WHIPPLE (FF-1062) stand at the ship's rail to render honors to the crew of the frigate USS BREWTON (FF-1086) after the completion of a manila high-line transfer-at-sea. Date Shot: 22 May 1982 "
Taken from DVIC.

I'm a little further ahead now......
I'll be removing the hull strakes and raised bulwarks on the WEM kit today. This will be some of the changed to the WEM kit in order to achieve an accurate FF-1086 from the mid 1970's.
Tony

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USS Brewton displayed some an sps 40 radar and I'm studyng the building for this ship. Anyone can help with a source for a high detailed plan for this kind of radar??????.......I thank so much

Hi Guys,
Taken from DVIC; an SPS-40...

Tony

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Hi all, Tony.

I will check if I can help you with some detailing drawings I may still have at work. I will let you know.

Cheers.
Pachi.

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Dear Tony, I thank so much for the pic, but I have a lot of then taken from difs sites of the web.....I think that I need a detailed plan...I tried some with Floating Drydock, but none sucess....nowhere else....no books...and so NO RADAR scaled!!!.My model scale is 1/150 and the radar will be in focus!!. I'm writting from Brazil and apreciate you all...thank you so much for attention...Guest.

Dear Francisco, I would apreciate a lot if you could direct me a source for some drawings of this radar...... some pics I have aren't enough to detail this part......Thanks for attention........Guest

Hi Guys,
Dear Guest,
You might consider enlarging a 1/350 SPS-40 from a currently available p/e set.
Contact the manufacturer and ask their permission to enlarge their p/e to your 1/150 scale, or you could scratch build an enlarged p/e copy, (on paper), then being built from strip styrene. Noone would be ripped off, if you did it this way.
I am in the same boat with my 1/96 Adams DDG, as there is currently no p/e SPS-40, or SPS-10 available. For that matter, there is no SPS-52 available either. Is there a market for these?
Probably not................
Tony

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Dear Tony, I'm the OLD guest that replied you and just yesterday registered here...ok, I read what you told me..... I have some work for own petching ( scratching...) of this part, but I can consider some incorrections in the available parts.....some real plan or drawing or even some good photo could show me what is hidden in the radar everywhere I see them.....there is a builder in Germany that made a remarkable work with this radar, and I'm gonna try some pics to you.....let me see some link........Thanks for contact.......... Jimmy

Hi all.

Jimmy, sorry but I don´t have those drawings anymore. Just some undetailed photos not worth a thing.

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Francisco, thank you so much for the effort, and I know it's so hard!!! Friendship worth all!!!
I put ahead some link for you and Tony about some image of the an sps 40......see the lower left pic when the page opens with thumbs.....what a superb radar!!!! My nice regards......... Jimmy

http://www.linienschiffe.de/seiten/bilderbuch.html

Hi Guys,
Jim,
I had photo-copied an SPS-40 radar from a 1/700 photo-etch sheet and then enlarged it to 1/96 scale, (for my 1/96 Adams DDG), and it looked far too plain without adding any detail further. Keep in mind this is a two dimensional plan view, just like looking at the original photo-etch fret. The only difference was/is the new size. Mike Potter has offered to copy these for me in 1/96 and make them from photo-etch brass.
I was planning; however, to add screen as a filler to the otherwise very plain enlarged photo-etch framework.
This was/still is my plan.
I was advised to cut out the copied/enlarged radar from paper and test fold for eventual brass fit, as it looked questionable with these too large and elementary locater tabs.
In theory, it should fit the same, but after actual practice some re-working may be beneficial.
This is the plan anyway. Not any further than cutting and test fit of paper enlargements so far.
One option for you in any case.
Tony

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Hi Guys,
I have removed the raised bulwarks and the strakes from the WEM hull, as Brewton did not have these mods in the 70's.
I have spent some time studying the USS Brewton, and discovered some more specific details: SatCom antennae, the SLQ-32, the later canister style life raft canisters, the BPDMS, (beat this one to death), were not there.
The SatCom pedestals in all of the pics I have studied were not where the WEM kits shows to put them. I could only guess that the Knox was this way; unlike any of the Knox Class ships that I have pictures of besides the Bewton. One of the pedestals was at the forward end of the Helo Hangar and all of the pics I've studied showed the "trash can", style of SatCom antennae to have been mounted to a small pedestal above the center of the center bridge window...not through it, (vertically), and to the roof of the helo hangar.
The Brewton in 1976-77 was, "pretty clean", without these add-ons from Brewton's later configs.
I'll have to use the earlier style of life rafts, (in baskets), and the positions that I do have of 1970's Brewton for location.
Check out some pics of the WEM kit after a few hours of work.

Here is a good looking down view of the changed forecastle...




Here is a view of the helo hangar with the tunnel, "retracted", and how the hangar itself will need some work to get rid of the very visible gap.


Other notable differences between the WEM kit and some of the pics I've studied is the helo hangar roof with its many surface details. Of the few looking down pics I've seen of Brewton and a few other of this class; showing the helo hangar roof's, there are no discernable details, (particurly form the 70's), that should be left in place, and will keep me form removing them.....

I like this kit!

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Hi Guys,
This morning, I removed the bridge area SatCom platform and all of the helo hangar roof details. ALL of the pictures of the Brewton, (from the pre-80's) and all of the early photos of this class of ship have no details atop the helo hangar roof. Later, the SatCom platorm, (as previously mentioned), would be here placed atop a lattice platform, (on almost all of the ships I've studied). The forward SatCom paltform would be above the center bridge window, (not running through it), so I am on my way to a mid 70's FF-1086 Brewton.
So far, so good.
It is almost time to start painting. I usually paint the deck first, then the vertical surfaces and the hull last. In between, all of the main deck raised details that need to be haze grey will be hand painted. The reason for painting the hull last: I have to handle the hull so much during much of the construction and painting. The paint does wear off and gets dirty from skin oil; just does not make sense to me to paint the hull any sooner. Enough about that.
Pics when worthwhile.
Tony

Tony,

The quality of the model is awesome, and the progress seems to be in the correct way. I think this is going to be an excellent construction.
Brgds,

Willie.

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Hi Guys,
Just finished primering the WEM 1/350 Knox FF. I have now spent at least 10 hours cleaning up the hull and other smaller parts. Just this morning about one hour was spent prepping and primering....DON'T FORGET TO CLEAN THE AIRBRUSH!!!!
I followed suggestions from a fellow ship modeler, (Rich Durham..you should see his HMS Hood on the PICTURE POST THREAD), for the primer :
Tamiya Sky Grey 2 parts
Tamiya Clear 1 part
Gunze Leveling Thinner 1 part might have been a little more thinner...
Spray entire model......let dry for a few days......
I have used this method of primering most of my last ship builds: USS Bunker Hill, USS New Jersey, USS Buchanan, USS Arizona, (not yet finished), and I have had superb results with the Testors Acryl paint atop this base coat. Especially when it comes to masking atop the Testors Acryl; the paint stays put when removing the masking tape. Before using a primer for a base coat, the Acryl paint would peel off too easly after masking over it; making way for a second or third color.
I learned my lesson with the Dragon 1/700 Essex...built as CV-17 Bunker Hill...6 colors that all stayed put after being masked over several times.

Here is a primered Knox Class.....I promise the next pics will be more inspired!


The welcome aboard pamphlet is from 1977. I also have the WestPac 1976-1977 cruise book. Very useful if I spend enough time sytudying all of the pics. More and more stuff just pops out when I least expect it.
At first, I thought the cruise book was nice to have but showed little, "modeler's details". How wrong I was........
Tony

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Hi all, Tony, Jimmy:

Sometimes I aint worth a dime. I was looking for the drawings without realising what I had just "next door", so to speak. I went to the Naval Base here to show to a friend and, talking ships and walking around, it suddenly struck me. I remembered a couple of radar antennae on the front of the electronics shop and that maybe, just maybe, one of them could be..........





Our old SPS40!.

These pics are sized to fit here, but they are bigger. I have some of them I can send to you if you are interested and, allowing me some time, I can take whatever measurements you need.

Hope this helps.
Pachi.

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Hi Guys,
To Willie, Francisco, Mike, Jimmy et all,
This thread is starting to really cook! You guys are keeping my interest growing in the Knox class ships.
I want you guys to know that my external enlightenment and inspiration has been because of you people!
Thanks, Tony Bunch

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