Hi Charlie!
DD-393 wrote:
Does the Smithsonian model depict Constellation during the War of 1812, or the Quasi-War with France in 1797? I ask this because of the color scheme. I was under the impression that the frigates' original late 1700's as launched had the entire upper hull in that sort of buff shade, and during the War of 1812 had the stripe around the guns.
My understanding is that the Smithsonian model reflects
Constellation's 1797-1805 appearance. She would have looked like this during the Quasi-War with France when, while assisting American merchant ships at sea, captured the French frigate
L'Insurgente of 36 guns, defeated the French frigate
La Vengeance of 54 guns, took two other French prizes and recaptured three American merchant ships. The model is consistent with
Constellation's building plan as shown between pages 121 and 122 of
Howard I. Chappelle's seminal work The History of the The American Sailing Navy. Chappelle also reports that
Constellation was designed to a very fast, narrow design. Her hull was strengthened and widened by 13" between 1805 and 1809 due to hogging (hull weakening leading to a humped-back appearance caused by the weight by her heavy armament), but still not as wide as
Constitution (see dimensions below).
As you know, she was first commissioned in yellow ochre ("buff"). Some time later, the exact date is not exactly clear but probably about or just before 1809, as a deceptive measure in her role as a raider, she and the other members of the Famous Six were repainted with the now familiar black hull and white or yellow ocher gun deck stripe to look more like ships of European navies. It is likely that, like
Constitution, her gun deck stripe and other white markings alternated between white and yellow ocher during the War of 1812.
DD-393 wrote:
I have the the 1/196-ish or so box scale version of Constitution sitting in my to-do pile. I'm wondering how much modification it would take to build it as Constellation as she was during the Quasi-War with France.
It depends on how accurate you want the model to be. Although
not accurate,
simply building the Revell kit in Constellation's markings is certainly doable and would look very attractive with the yellow ocher "buff" coloring.DD-393 wrote:
I have "Six Frigates" by Ian Toll, and the impression I have is that Constitution, United States and President were built as the 44 gun size, and Constellation, Congress and Chesapeake were a sort of cost cutting compromise and downsized to the 36 gun size. Is that correct? I realize that there are very many subtle differences, particularly in rigging, armament, etc., but how is the comparison considering the somewhat smaller size? Are the later three basically the same design, just scaled down?
The 38s were built to a different design. Chapelle states that the 38s (sometimes referred to as 36s) were not scaled down versions of the 44s but built to a very different design and provides detailed drawings of the two designs in his book. Chapelle states that the designs of both classes can best be described as a collaborative effort between three talented designers, Joshua Humphries, Josiah Fox and William Doughty. The original class design for the 44s, known as a "master draught" was probably made by Joshua Humphries alone (Chapelle pg. 123). From this master, Josiah Fox (Admiralty-trained and a better technical designer than Humphries) and William Doughty made detailed construction plans, known as "builders draughts", and provided those draughts to each of the ship's builders (Chapelle pp. 124-126). William Doughty probably designed the 38s under the supervision of Josiah Fox, each giving the other credit for the design (Chapelle pg. 126). Each builder then made subtle changes to the plans they were given so each ship is a bit different from the other even if built to the same plan. This is nothing unique, however, even modern sisterships differ a bit, e.g. no two
Essex class or even
Nimitz class carriers are identical.
A comparison of the building plans of the three 44s and the building plans of
Constellation and
Congress found between pages 121 and 122 and indicate that the hulls are indeed different in several significant respects.
Chesapeake was built to a third design.
44s /
38sLength: 175' / 164'
Beam: 43'-6" / 40'-6"
Depth of hold: 14'-3" / 13'-6"
1576 tons / 1278 tons
A comparison of War of 1812 plans of
USF President (after Admiralty plans of the ship taken following her capture are shown between pages 264 and 265) and
USF Chesapeake (also after Admiralty plans of the ship taken following her capture are shown between pages 280 and 282) is also included in the book.
DD-393 wrote:
How should I approach the rigging? I have rather rough drawings and the Anatomy Of A Ship book on Constitution so I have a pretty good starting point. The issue I have is with those awful molded ratlines. I'm thinking of using them as a template and using white glue and thread to construct them from scratch. Any suggestions on that?
Replacing the kit's ratlines with anything else is a lot of effort but would probably look terrific.
DD-393 wrote:
Constellation was initially armed with mostly 24 lb. cannons. How well would the kit supplied guns work? Or would I have to go aftermarket or even scratchbuild? Or, considering the scale of the kit, would it matter that much?
IMHO, aftermarket is expensive but usually look better than kit parts. You might look around and see what's available and what looks best to your eye.
Chapelle's book is a great reference and they are very inexpensive these days. I can't recommend it enough.