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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:58 pm 
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THANK YOU SO MUCH STEVE!!! Those were very helpful pics. WOW WEEE that DD-804 is really coming along nicely now. Absolutely brilliant work!!! The more I see the more inspiring (to do my own Fletcher hence the pics)

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Thanks, men!

Mike Glasgow wrote:
Could you describe how you made the aft 20mm gun tub. Did you heat the plastic in warm water? Just wondering how you kept that perfect symmetrical shape, no twisting, looks really nice. How many pieces did you use for the vertical wall?


The vertical wall is composed of a single .020 Evergreen styrene strip cut into three parts from a large sheet. The three parts are the left side, right side, and flat panel.

The deck location of the splinter shield was carefully marked out in pencil directly on the deck before I installed the deck to the hull. Marking can be done afterwards but you will likely find marking locations is easiest when the deck is lying flat on a table without any other features like deckhouses and turrets fixed to the deck.

The shield parts were cut from the larger sheet using a thick steel ruler as a straight edge guide and a #11 Xacto knife. Cutting all three parts from a single longer part ensures that they will all be the same height when assembled. The small drain holes at the bottom of the shield were made using a Waldron punch and die set, pricey but worth it.

After cutting out the three styrene parts, I marked the locations of the ribs and drains and punched the drains open.

I then marked the portions of the shields that must be curved. I then pulled the marked areas of each part across the handle of a small hobby file quickly which will curve the plastic. It's the same technique used to make a curly ribbon by pulling a straight ribbon across a scissors.

Then using common Testors liquid cement in the black bottle, I ran a very small bead of glue along the edges and fixed the shield parts onto the deck markings (and each other) then held the part very tightly against the deck for about 10-15 seconds. Pressure helps the glue bond better.

After the shield had bonded to the deck I began fixing the reinforcing ribs to the inside of the shield. You can do this before you fix the shield to the deck but I think the shield will sit more plumb if you fix the ribs later. The ribs are cut from .015x.040 Evergreen styrene strips. A bag of them costs about $3. I cut the strips a bit long so that they will jut above the shield after they are installed. I placed them into position using a very fine needle-nose tweezers (you need this). Once the glue sets, I trim them with a cuticle clipper to the proper height and angle.

A simple, inexpensive cuticle clipper is one of the most useful tools you can own. I use it more than an Xacto knife.

Hope all this helps.

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Another excellent build about to fall off the 1st page . Steve how is your Fletcher progressing ? :cool_2: :wave_1:
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A simple, inexpensive cuticle clipper is one of the most useful tools you can own. I use it more than an Xacto knife.



He,s got the nicest hands on Modelwarships, :eyebrows: :eyebrows: :wave_1: :thumbs_up_1:

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Thanks, gents!

My Fletcher is presently waiting yard space pending work to be completed on Yorktown.

My hands do look good. And the chicks dig it.

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Cool work there Steve!

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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 7:39 am 
G'day Steve,
Some of your work is very impressive and it is giving me ideas whilst I am building my fletcher class type destroyer.
As you are aware that I am going to scratch build my lindberg kit of the 1/125 scale of the USS Melvin also known as; "Blue Devil" DD-680.
Could you tell me if all fletcher class type destroyers had kiels on them? I do have drawing plans of a USS Fletcher, shows no kiel, however, can you please tell me if these ships had kiels anyways?
Another thing I wish to ask you is to how to work with styrene. I have used styrene before, only for very small fine jobs, what is the best way to shape thick styrene to the shape I need to shape it without splitting it or cracking it?

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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 8:19 am 
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Hello Peter!

Guest wrote:
As you are aware that I am going to scratch build my lindberg kit of the 1/125 scale of the USS Melvin also known as; "Blue Devil" DD-680.

Good luck with the kit!

Guest wrote:
Could you tell me if all fletcher class type destroyers had kiels on them? I do have drawing plans of a USS Fletcher, shows no kiel, however, can you please tell me if these ships had kiels anyways?

The ships had bilge keels on the exterior, one on each side. The Lindberg kit is missing these.

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what is the best way to shape thick styrene to the shape I need to shape it without splitting it or cracking it?

You may want to soften the styrene in very warm water before shaping it.


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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 10:10 am 
G'day Steve,
I have been reading your information in regards to the fletcher type class destroyers, and it is helping me out so much and carefully reading and studying about how to work with styrene.
I have a question for you though....
As I have mentioned that I am scratch building the lindberg's 1/125th Blue Devil or USS Melvin, majority of it will be scratch and the rest will be photo-etched.
I am going to turn this destroyer into radio control, and sometime within the next week I am going out shopping for lights for this ship. Most of the lights I have covered, however, I need some help in knowing what lights are used atop the mast?
The drawings do show clearly the lights, what I am interested in, is the fighting lights. what lights are used?
I have everything planned out for my lighting system for this ship, however, I am wanting to know about the lights on the mast as well as the fighting lights for port and starboard on the mast itself?
Much appreciated if you could help me out with this matter so that I can plan my work out for lights.


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cruiserman wrote:
...what I am interested in, is the fighting lights. what lights are used?


Hello Peter!

As I understand it, the fighting lights were used in combination to help identify friend from foe, and therefore the combination of which lights were lit varied. I recommend you ask the question on the main board. Others who know much more than I do are likely to help.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 4:06 pm 
I am trying to find 4 Blue Devil 5" gun housings .

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Someone made a set of turrets and a director for the kit. Can't remember who it was, but check the resin manufacturers on this site and Steel Navy.

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If I am not mistaken Dreadnought Navy Shipyards had a set for the 5" guns & the Director for about $30.00. I do not know if these are still being offered. Google it.

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Steve Larson . . I read every part of this thread. I am embarking on a similar project using the 1/144 Revell kit to render a mid war Square Bridge . . DD-522 USS Luce.

Please post an update!!

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I have been researching various Fletcher projects online, and this build is outstanding! The joinery of the plastic parts, in particular, is remarkable. What kind of adhesive are you using?

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PeeJay & LoB,

FYI, Steve Larsen has not posted here in many years, I doubt you will receive a response to your queries.

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Thanks, Bill. I hadn't noticed the month on the posts before the last couple.

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Steve Larsen's work on this build was truly amazing. :cool_2: I don't have a clue as to why he never finished it. :thinking:

We are all getting older and some day this will happen to all of us. One day we're building and posting progress photos and then the thread all of a sudden ends for no reason. :smallsmile:

We all know the world is round, maybe Steve found a flat spot and his ship sailed over the edge never to be seen or heard from again. :cry_3:


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Thanks for the comments! Hope you have all been well. Back from the dead and work resumes. :woo_hoo:

Here are some photos of brand new turret masters made from more accurate drawings (from Floating Drydock, of course).


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