1/350 DKM Gneisenau (1943) - scratch

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1/350 DKM Gneisenau (1943) - scratch

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Here are some in-progress photos of my scratch-built 1/350 scale DKM Gneisenau 1943 presently on hold.

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Waterline hull minus deck:

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Scribed "planked" deck in place with locations of major structures marked out:

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Barbettes, breakwaters and Level 01 bulkheads in place:

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Deck hatches and bulkhead details in progress:

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Gneisenau was scheduled to be rearmed with 15-inch twin gun turrets identical to those mounted to Bismarck and Tirpitz.
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Very nice designer work :thumbs_up_1:

From designer to designer...Congratulations :thumbs_up_1:


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Excellent workmanship Thanks for posting Steve look forward to more!
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I've been dreaming of scratch-build a 1/350 Gneisenau with 15" gun armed. It will be great. Hardwares are ready (Tamiya Bismarck kit, GMM PE set, WEM AA weapon set, hull plan.......) but no TIME!
Looking forward to see your masterpiece! :thumbs_up_1:
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I have just received ISW/Commander 1/350 Scharnhorst and the hullshaping and the atlantic bow is not very good. Needs carving and shaping! I think your hull will be much better, Steve! At least what I can see of your pictures.

I will build the ISW Scharnhorst, but I will order your Semi-kit for Gneisenau.

Will post a review of the ISW Scharnhorst before Christmas.
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Gneisenau's a beautiful ship ^^
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Ciao all,

wonderful, just waiting for it to become available to purchase some of those kits......

By the way Steve, ... if you read on the Scharnhorst drawings the name of the researcher and maker, .. than you will be surprised,... :wave_1:

Any help or info I can provide you just feel free, .. on both Scharnhorst and Gneisenau,.... as I can do the same for all the 10 KM major warships, .. so Gneisenau included...... :thumbs_up_1:

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Hello Antonio!

Any photos of either ship are appreciated!
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Gneisenau and Scharnhorst

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Ciao Steve,

all Gneisenau drawings are almost done :thumbs_up_1: , .... same style as Scharnhorst.

But I do have news for Scharnhorst as well, .. as last year was full of many new discovery about many camouflage schemes :cool_2: .

I will be contacting you separately.

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And here are some photos to help get those details right.
The raised deck hatches along side the forward turrets indicate that the ship in the photo above is actually Gneisenau, not Scharnhorst.  Compare this photo to the photo below.
The raised deck hatches along side the forward turrets indicate that the ship in the photo above is actually Gneisenau, not Scharnhorst. Compare this photo to the photo below.
The absence of deck hatches alongside the forward turrets confirms that this ship is Scharnhorst.
The absence of deck hatches alongside the forward turrets confirms that this ship is Scharnhorst.
Note the original bow.
Note the original bow.
Note in this photo, there are blast bags on Turret Anton but not Turret Bruno <br />and that the area under the anchor chains is planked, not steel.
Note in this photo, there are blast bags on Turret Anton but not Turret Bruno
and that the area under the anchor chains is planked, not steel.
Scharnhorst.  Early catapult on Turret Caesar.
Scharnhorst. Early catapult on Turret Caesar.
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Notice the pattern on the capstans.  It is believed the port capstan was painted white/red while the starboard capstan was white/green.
Notice the pattern on the capstans. It is believed the port capstan was painted white/red while the starboard capstan was white/green.
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Note the dark gray band painted on the barbette base at the deck.  This band appears at the base of all bulkheads in photos as well.
Note the dark gray band painted on the barbette base at the deck. This band appears at the base of all bulkheads in photos as well.
Scharnhorst.  Note the mottling for Operation Cerberus.
Scharnhorst. Note the mottling for Operation Cerberus.
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Cao Steve,

you are absolutely right :thumbs_up_1: ,.. that photo is of Gneisenau.

Few easy takes are :

... the 6 boxes on the main deck only Gneisenau had each side of the fwd turrets,

..... the fully coloured top turrets in red ( only GU did that initially while Scharnhorst was keeping the rangefinder hoods light grey ).....

... than the swastika banner that was a lot different between SH and GU :
Gneisenau had a larger white circle, whit a thinner black swastika painted in ( Adm Hipper had that too ),..so very easy way to realize which ship was which,....

... than if you look at the bow,..you do not see the third anchor hole that Schanhorst had and Gneisenau did not have,..... and the bow anchors are on the deck, so the atlantic bow was already fitted,.... on GU.

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Gneisenau plans and drawings ....are out there

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Ciao all,

I think many will be interested to see Gneisenau full history and ship evolution, .. in coloured drawings.

Now the '' Terrible twins '' are complete,...even if Scharnhorst drawings needs now some modifications,..... will do it later,... :eyebrows:

Enjoy it,.... :thumbs_up_1:




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Gneisenau fine model....

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Ciao Martin and all,

MANY THANKS Martin, ..... :thumbs_up_1:

..you are absolutely right,... it is a very nice Gneisenau model ..enjoy :

http://www.kbismarck.org/forum/viewtopi ... =9626#9626

Ciao Antonio :surfer:
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Looking through this thread yet again, I was wondering, Steve, how did you make the hull for your Gneisenau?
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It is basically a frame made of .040 thick styrene (including waterline base and main deck) with sides made of more flexible .020 styrene. The deck was overlaid with .020 v-groove styrene to replicate the planked wooden deck.

For the frame, any styrene less than .040 is too thin resulting in warps.

Hope this helps!!
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Some film footage of Scharnhorst and Gneisenau from YouTube. You can clearly see how wet these ships were:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eV9jvcO ... ed&search=

The following film includes dramatic footage of the sinking of HMS Glorious and her escorts:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61ALFBmk ... ed&search=
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Scharnhorst looks like a surfacing submarine... :smallsmile:
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I also saw the you-tube video on the Scharnorst & Gneisenau at sea. They must have been very unsatisfactory ships for the North Atlantic. They did look like submarines as a surprising/scary amount of water was seen flowing over the bow. No wonder the Atlantic bows were fitted. They must have been too fine forward so that there was not enough buoyancy forward, similar to the Iowas.
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Re: 1/350 DKM Gneisenau (1943) - scratch

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Hey Steve, any updates on this beauty?

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