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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 6:00 pm 
Just wanted to re-post the bibliographic information on the Dutch warship book as recommended on the old message board:

De Nederlandsche Zeemacht: Pantserschepen Pantserdekschepen Monitors
Jt. Mulder, W.F. Ruygrok
Lanasta (http://www.lanasta.com)
ISBN 908078222X
2004

The book is lavishly illustrated with b&w photos, plans and drawings, and covers all the Dutch monitors, coastal defense ships, and protected cruisers from 1865 to about 1920. Dutch language, but pretty easy to figure out photo captions, etc.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 7:30 am 
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Ted, thanks for posting that - I recently saw it on t'internet whilst surfing and have wondered how useful it is (just have to save some pennies now!). I've always liked Dutch coastal defence battleships since seeing a lovely model of the Jakob van Heemskerck in the maritime museum in Amsterdam.

Is it good enough to use to make a model from? Stuff about those vessels is hard to come by.


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Roger T wrote:
Ted, thanks for posting that - I recently saw it on t'internet whilst surfing and have wondered how useful it is (just have to save some pennies now!). I've always liked Dutch coastal defence battleships since seeing a lovely model of the Jakob van Heemskerck in the maritime museum in Amsterdam.

Is it good enough to use to make a model from? Stuff about those vessels is hard to come by.


I have it, and I think the line drawings are quite useful, when you can xerox them properly and figure out the correct scales. You might want to 'untie' some of the pages for proper copying. Most of the pansterschepen are drawn deck by deck and with all the necessary details (except perhaps the mast config, but you can get those from the photograps). Anyway, the book is recommended, but not for the prose: the Dutch text is sloppy, stuttering and occasionally downright silly.

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MichelB wrote:
I have it, and I think the line drawings are quite useful, when you can xerox them properly and figure out the correct scales.


Nice one, MichelB, thanks! And thanks for that link in your other thread to the Dutch warship photos - superb resource!


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Is there any books on the Dutch cruisers in English language?


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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2005 11:29 am 
Warship Profile No. 40, on DeRuyter, is the only English resource I can think of at the moment.


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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2005 11:58 am 
it is also a book in russian, available with a lot of patience, is very sloooow at:
http://Links to this site not allowed due to copyright violations./WeaponBook/Hol_Cr/index.htm
good drawing
and on nederland fleet in ww2:
http://Links to this site not allowed due to copyright violations./WeaponBook/ ... /index.htm
with some translator you can have idea of the text
ciao peppe


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Ted in DC wrote:
Warship Profile No. 40, on DeRuyter, is the only English resource I can think of at the moment.

But it seems the warship Profile is a very thin book, only 2x pages?


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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2005 10:56 pm 
Nansung Woo wrote:
Ted in DC wrote:
Warship Profile No. 40, on DeRuyter, is the only English resource I can think of at the moment.

But it seems the warship Profile is a very thin book, only 2x pages?


Yes, that's correct, it's no bigger than a Profile Morskie-type publication. Probably one of those for DeRuyter, also.
Another book in English that comes to mind is the small hardback book:
Royal Netherlands Navy, by H.T. Lenton, MacDonald & Co. Publishers Ltd., 1968. It's in the "Navies of the Second World War" series and approximates one of the Ian Allen volumes in scope, content and size. Photographs only, no plans or profiles, about 150 pages in all.


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