Accurate plans for the SMS Emden (1909)
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Pack36
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Accurate plans for the SMS Emden (1909)
My apologies if this topic has been covered before, but the information I've tracked down is way out of date. I'd like to build the Emden at 1:100 scale. Always one of my favorite ships. It appears the best plans, by all accounts, are the ones done by Peter Gunter Huff. I'm about 8 years late - they're out of print. I've been searching for weeks, and found quite a few used copies of his book. Unfortunately, nobody seems to be parting with their plans! My high school German isn't good enough to dig around the German websites. I did come across the M.Z. Modellbau Emden kit at 1:100. It looks good, but I'm not sure of the accuracy. I keep comparing all Emden models to photos of Mr. Huff's beautiful 1:100 scale.
Any ideas or leads I can follow up? Can I still get a copy (even electronic) of the Huff plans? I've been building planes and armor for years. Switching over to ships, and finding where to look for things, is a bit harder than I thought it'd be.
Thanks
Any ideas or leads I can follow up? Can I still get a copy (even electronic) of the Huff plans? I've been building planes and armor for years. Switching over to ships, and finding where to look for things, is a bit harder than I thought it'd be.
Thanks
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ingura
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- Villaamil
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Re: Accurate plans for the SMS Emden (1909)
You can find the book in this web http://www.christian-schmidt-fachbuchha ... ucts_id=43.This website is in both languages,but the book its in German one...
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Pack36
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Re: Accurate plans for the SMS Emden (1909)
Thanks very much for the information. I've sent inquiry e-mails out. I'm now waiting for replies. Hopefully I'll be onto plans soon. From what I understand, the Huff book is well worth having, even if I don't speak German. Finally feel as if I'm making progress!
I do have one advantage with Emden's guns. I'm within driving distance of one of her casemate 10.5 cm guns, and one of her shielded 10.5 cm guns. The former is in Sydney's Hyde Park, the later in the Canberra museum. It's nice being able to view something from the actual ship. I'm curious which specific gun position they're each from. If I recall correctly, at least one of Emden's guns was blown overboard during the fight with HMAS Sydney.
I do have one advantage with Emden's guns. I'm within driving distance of one of her casemate 10.5 cm guns, and one of her shielded 10.5 cm guns. The former is in Sydney's Hyde Park, the later in the Canberra museum. It's nice being able to view something from the actual ship. I'm curious which specific gun position they're each from. If I recall correctly, at least one of Emden's guns was blown overboard during the fight with HMAS Sydney.
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Guest
Re: Accurate plans for the SMS Emden (1909)
Even if you don't know German, Mr. Huff's book is worth having just because is beautifully published.
The book itself is the author's only written and became his life's work.
In my opinion (I hope I'm not alone) the books of such enthusiasts, being not commercial ventures, are very often much better than the books of renowned professional writers. They come suddenly from nowhere and are hits (remember the wonderfull work of Mr. Langtree The Kelly's, or Franklin's The Buckley-class,or maybe less popular because in German Klapdor's Zerstoerer Friedrich Ihn or Sifferlingers Panzerkreuzer Sankt Georg).
Renowed authors' books are announced long before publishing, the spiral of 'hysterics' is created on forums like this and often the balloon of expectations bursts after publishing and the complaints arise as the book appears nothing special
God give as more enthusiasts, please.
The book itself is the author's only written and became his life's work.
In my opinion (I hope I'm not alone) the books of such enthusiasts, being not commercial ventures, are very often much better than the books of renowned professional writers. They come suddenly from nowhere and are hits (remember the wonderfull work of Mr. Langtree The Kelly's, or Franklin's The Buckley-class,or maybe less popular because in German Klapdor's Zerstoerer Friedrich Ihn or Sifferlingers Panzerkreuzer Sankt Georg).
Renowed authors' books are announced long before publishing, the spiral of 'hysterics' is created on forums like this and often the balloon of expectations bursts after publishing and the complaints arise as the book appears nothing special
God give as more enthusiasts, please.
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RickF
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Re: Accurate plans for the SMS Emden (1909)
There's a set of drawings - of a sort - advertised on ebay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/sms-emden-ship-bo ... otohosting
Maybe not exactly what you want, but they have to be worth the $9.99 that they are currently for sale at.
Rick
Maybe not exactly what you want, but they have to be worth the $9.99 that they are currently for sale at.
Rick

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mcg
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Re: Accurate plans for the SMS Emden (1909)
This excellent library in Stuttgart has the Huff plans.
http://www.wlb-stuttgart.de/sammlungen/ ... gen/#c4622
They can copy and ship them. The curator speaks english and is very knowledgeable and helpful. Also note their other plans -- a wonderful collection.
regards, mcg.
http://www.wlb-stuttgart.de/sammlungen/ ... gen/#c4622
They can copy and ship them. The curator speaks english and is very knowledgeable and helpful. Also note their other plans -- a wonderful collection.
regards, mcg.
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mifune
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Re: Accurate plans for the SMS Emden (1909)
Hello!
Buy the HMV 1/250 Scale card-model (Hamburger Modellbaubogen Verlag). It is a perfect 3D plan.
You can find it here:www.moduni.com
Mikko Saarela
Buy the HMV 1/250 Scale card-model (Hamburger Modellbaubogen Verlag). It is a perfect 3D plan.
You can find it here:www.moduni.com
Mikko Saarela
Mikko Saarela
Measure twice, cut once. Measuring once could be quicker...
Measure twice, cut once. Measuring once could be quicker...
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Richard OMalley
Re: Accurate plans for the SMS Emden (1909)
Hi Pak 36
Have you found plans for Emden yet and if so were did you get them? I want to do one in 1/96 scale.Maybe we should work on this together? I have a machine shop and make my own gun barrels from brass. I could do mine in 1/100 scale to make everything the same. I will be making a plug then a female mold so I can prouduce fiberglass hulls .
Richard
Have you found plans for Emden yet and if so were did you get them? I want to do one in 1/96 scale.Maybe we should work on this together? I have a machine shop and make my own gun barrels from brass. I could do mine in 1/100 scale to make everything the same. I will be making a plug then a female mold so I can prouduce fiberglass hulls .
Richard
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Ad rem
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Re: Accurate plans for the SMS Emden (1909)
Good afternoon.
I have a book Huff, Peter G�nter � S.M.S. Emden: 1909-1914�
In two years I have bought{purchased} plans: S. M. S. Emden. . Baupl�ne d. Kleinen Kreuzers. Kassel 1996. 4 S., 14 Pl., 1 Taf. 31 cm. OMappe. Huff, Peter G.
The book is not so necessary to me, and drawings I wish to leave to itself for memory. They are very in details traced.
Now I wish to sell the book. If buy{purchase} the book I shall make to you copies of drawings, I shall write down on ?D and I shall send together with the book (drawings - free of charge). I can make copies of drawings on a paper, but they greater{big} and will cost dearly{expensively} (if on one leaf{sheet}) or I can make free of charge copies of drawings on sheets of format ?4 (a paper for the printer) and having combined some parts, you receive the whole.
I have a book Huff, Peter G�nter � S.M.S. Emden: 1909-1914�
In two years I have bought{purchased} plans: S. M. S. Emden. . Baupl�ne d. Kleinen Kreuzers. Kassel 1996. 4 S., 14 Pl., 1 Taf. 31 cm. OMappe. Huff, Peter G.
The book is not so necessary to me, and drawings I wish to leave to itself for memory. They are very in details traced.
Now I wish to sell the book. If buy{purchase} the book I shall make to you copies of drawings, I shall write down on ?D and I shall send together with the book (drawings - free of charge). I can make copies of drawings on a paper, but they greater{big} and will cost dearly{expensively} (if on one leaf{sheet}) or I can make free of charge copies of drawings on sheets of format ?4 (a paper for the printer) and having combined some parts, you receive the whole.
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Richard OMalley
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Hi Ad rem
Thank you for your replay.Please email me so we can discuse this further. My email address is ric9439@netzero.net
Richard
Thank you for your replay.Please email me so we can discuse this further. My email address is ric9439@netzero.net
Richard
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Ad rem
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Re: Accurate plans for the SMS Emden (1909)
Hi.
Richard I shall write to you.
Richard I shall write to you.
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Ad rem
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Re: Accurate plans for the SMS Emden (1909)
plans: S. M. S. Emden. . Baupl�ne d. Kleinen Kreuzers. Kassel 1996. 4 S., 14 Pl., 1 Taf. 31 cm. OMappe. Huff, Peter G.
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Uhu
Re: Accurate plans for the SMS Emden (1909)
Huff SMS Emden plans back in print & available from Christian Schmidt in Munich.
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Re: Accurate plans for the SMS Emden (1909)
Those are some pretty impressive plans! I need to go over to the website and order a set. Thanks for tipUhu wrote:Huff SMS Emden plans back in print & available from Christian Schmidt in Munich.
Bob B.
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Re: Accurate plans for the SMS Emden (1909)
Ask please for those who have the plans for SMS Emden class ( 1908 ) if can help me with location of the submerged torpedo tubes.
Original question is here:
viewtopic.php?f=48&t=34689&p=434950#p434950
Thank you very much: Jimmy
Original question is here:
viewtopic.php?f=48&t=34689&p=434950#p434950
Thank you very much: Jimmy
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