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I've had stuff from the British library loan system before using my local library so that's certainly possible - worth a try.

Is your university naval research going to be published in the future (assuming you did a naval topic for research) ?

Mark

I did something not very naval 'the armaments and munitions industry in Coventry during WWI'.
There will be things published in academic journals, along with my supervisors.
I could publish something on the Coventry Ordnance Works which produced many naval guns between 1910-1921 perhaps, but I wish really to get onto my WW2 naval stuff again.

My local libaray was able to get this in 3 days who saids being nice to libaraians dosn't pay dividends
.A. Kingsley (Ed.) for the Naval Radar Trust The Applications of Radar and other Electronic Systems in the Royal Navy in World War 2. Macmillan Press Ltd. 1995 400 pages. ISBN 0-333-62748-2

Graham Murdoch

After waiting months finally a copy of 'F.A. Kingsley (Ed.) for the Naval Radar Trust Radar: The Development of Equipments for the Royal Navy 1935-45. Macmillan Press Ltd. 1995. 476 pages. ISBN 0-333-61210-8' came up for sale last week for £60.75 inc. PnP.
While I was negotiating with the seller it sold immediately to someone else!
Damn these Kingsley books are rare
LB

After much searching and failing to be able to buy either one of these Kingsley Naval Radar Trust volumes from any book dealer in the world, I finally managed to get both through inter-library loan at a cost of £3.50 each....use to be free when I was a post-graduate and only £1 each when an undergraduate student!
Still I think each one would cost £50 2nd-hand to buy, if they could be found so I'm still happy just to get them!
I'll scan in the covers and sent them to Amazon that way it will help more people be aware of these 2 useful titles.
LB

I've added the front cover's of both these Kingsley (ed.) Naval Radar books to Amazon's pages to assist anyone looking for them:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Development-Radar-Equipments-Royal-1935-45/dp/0333612108/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1252690066&sr=1-4
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Applications-Radar-Other-Electronic-Systems/dp/0333627482/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1252690066&sr=1-3

Cheers
LB

Both of the Kingsley books turned up on Amazon UK on Friday morning; £32 each, from the same seller. So I snapped them both up. They arrived this morning.

This confirms previous experience that even rare books turn up eventually at a reasonable price.

That is extremely cheap, well done!

Thank you Laurence. And thank heavens for the non-specialist booksellers who sell online!

That's been my experience as well. It seems some sellers can't be bothered to do a search and find out what market prices are from other sellers. Looking for a rare copy of one particular book from the 1920s turned up three copies world wide. One for $500 US one for $450 and the last for $100. I chose the $100 copy and it was near mint. It had never been read, as the pages were stiff and clean as 80 years would allow! It always pays to hit every used book site and do a lot of searching. Some amazing bargains can be had.

Bob B

So true. Of course in this case the seller would have had trouble locating other copies for sale: there aren't any!

And be aware of spider listers (a.k.a. spider sellers). Those 3 sellers with your 1920s book may well have been listing the same copy, with the $100 seller actually possessing the book and the other two just re-listing it elsewhere. Did you notice whether the other two listings disappeared at the same time you bought the book?

Read about spider listers here: http://www.amazonsellercommunity.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=118160

For me the most telling quote from the thread is this:



More on spider listers here: http://reviews.ebay.com/Smart-Book-Buying-Tips_W0QQugidZ10000000000733299

The give away for me is when reading the book's description by the different booksellers. When they are different , I assume the books are seperate copies. Like one is listed near fine, some foxing, worn edges. Another may be VG+ owner's name written on the inside cover. etc. etc. Any good bookseller will give details of the book's condition. The less they describe the condition, the less likely I am to buy from them.
I did check, and all copies of the 1920s book have disappeared from the seller's listing a copy at the time I bought! But one new listing by a different seller in the UK is up.

Anyone else notice some real drops in prices for used books? There no longer seem to be quite so many people out there with more money than brains! Prices should continue to fall. The used book bubble may have burst!
I mean I used to see copies of Conway's Journal "Warship" with various years listed into the $200 range. Now that is a bubble!

Bob B.