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IJN Mogami (Tamiya 1/350)
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Re: IJN Mogami (Tamiya 1/350)
if what you are looking for is accuracy choice b would be the right one Dirk.. awesome job on the boat boom
Jose
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Re: IJN Mogami (Tamiya 1/350)
Thanks Jose
for the endorsement concerning the 25 mm steel bases!
I added awning stanchions (from Gold Medal Models Gold PLUS Takao Details) and the corresponding line (Uni-Caenis 20 den).
The unit �den� or �denier� means the mass m in g per length of L=9000 m length. So this makes m/L=0.020kg/9000m. When the density ? of the fiber is known, it is possible to calculate the fiber radius with the equation r=?(1/???m/L). Assuming ?=1400 kg/m^3 this gives r=22.5�m. For a model scale 1/350 this gives a line diameter of approximately 16 mm in the real world. So I think, at least for 1/350 this should be close to reality. (I hope that my calculation is correct and the density assumption in the right order.)
I added awning stanchions (from Gold Medal Models Gold PLUS Takao Details) and the corresponding line (Uni-Caenis 20 den).
The unit �den� or �denier� means the mass m in g per length of L=9000 m length. So this makes m/L=0.020kg/9000m. When the density ? of the fiber is known, it is possible to calculate the fiber radius with the equation r=?(1/???m/L). Assuming ?=1400 kg/m^3 this gives r=22.5�m. For a model scale 1/350 this gives a line diameter of approximately 16 mm in the real world. So I think, at least for 1/350 this should be close to reality. (I hope that my calculation is correct and the density assumption in the right order.)
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Re: IJN Mogami (Tamiya 1/350)
Nice job with those steel baseplates and with the awning stanchions. Rigging on the latter looks very subtle.
The lamp with its cable on the jackstaff is another brilliant detail.
Thank you for the explanation about den thickness!
The lamp with its cable on the jackstaff is another brilliant detail.
Thank you for the explanation about den thickness!
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IJN Mogami (Tamiya 1/350)
Thanks Marek for your comments.
After having a break I continued with Mogami and could not withstand
to start a 1/700 IJN Kongo.
viewtopic.php?f=59&t=58973
Here my first tests for weathering the hull by airbrushing with different shades of grey and rust.
It might be that the effects are too strong and that I have to do some filtering. I am thankful for comments.
After having a break I continued with Mogami and could not withstand
viewtopic.php?f=59&t=58973
Here my first tests for weathering the hull by airbrushing with different shades of grey and rust.
It might be that the effects are too strong and that I have to do some filtering. I am thankful for comments.
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Looks good, but is a bit too strong for me. I would agree about further filtering.
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i like it Dirk
i tried doing it once with my Fuso and it worked rather well however don't forget the hand touch is always necessary, i can see you started your Kongo's WIP thread i'm looking forward to it!!
Jose
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Thanks Marek and Jose for your comments. Marek, it is not the first time that I followed your advice: I softened the contrast of the different shades of grey on the hull.
I completed the details in the stern region (Mogami190). I followed the Miyukikai plan and unbelievable � in the book Kojinsha IJN Photo File #12: Mogami- & Tone-Class � there is an original picture of Mogami (page18) showing the end of the floatplane handling deck with details of the stern.
I decided not to use the monofilament thread I employed for my former models Tone and Chokai (1 in Mogami191). Instead I will do the complete rigging of Mogami with Uni-Caenis 20den (2 in Mogami191). To avoid disaster I will make this �invisible thread� more visible by adding tiny white isolators. I added hull details (marked with black �x� in Mogami192) following the Miyukikai plan (In pictures showing Mogami in 1935 these parts are visible. I am not sure if they were still there in 1944. I also don�t know what they are for (pipes for cooling water or part for holding the bulge? Can anybody help?). The following pictures demonstrate the weathering of the hull.
I completed the details in the stern region (Mogami190). I followed the Miyukikai plan and unbelievable � in the book Kojinsha IJN Photo File #12: Mogami- & Tone-Class � there is an original picture of Mogami (page18) showing the end of the floatplane handling deck with details of the stern.
I decided not to use the monofilament thread I employed for my former models Tone and Chokai (1 in Mogami191). Instead I will do the complete rigging of Mogami with Uni-Caenis 20den (2 in Mogami191). To avoid disaster I will make this �invisible thread� more visible by adding tiny white isolators. I added hull details (marked with black �x� in Mogami192) following the Miyukikai plan (In pictures showing Mogami in 1935 these parts are visible. I am not sure if they were still there in 1944. I also don�t know what they are for (pipes for cooling water or part for holding the bulge? Can anybody help?). The following pictures demonstrate the weathering of the hull.
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Dirk im looking at those pipes right now on a picture from one of my books, "Warships Of The Imperial Japanese Navy" Mogami, Mikuma, Suzuya & Tone volume.i can only see those 2 pipes on the starboard side i've gone through all Mogami's shots i got here and i can't see those in any other place than the starboard side. This book has few shots of the ship in 1944 and most of them were taken on the ship which means there are no hull shots whatsoever.. i could be wrong but those could be scupper pipes to drain the water from deck. there is something else while i was looking at the shots i found one that shows the main range finder on top of the bridge painted white, at least it looks white to me possibly a 1944 refit. let me know if you want to take a look at it. i'll be glad to scan itDirk wrote: I am not sure if they were still there in 1944. I also don�t know what they are for (pipes for cooling water or part for holding the bulge? Can anybody help?).
Jose
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Thanks Jose for your help.
Very likely that these parts are scupper pipes.
If yes I think that the main range finder is grey and only in full light (other parts appear darker due to shadows.). On the left side there is white canvas over the frame of the accommodation ladder. I think that this is real white and it is lighter then the main range finder.
Do you referring to the picture of Mogami on page 15 in the book Kojinsha IJN Photo File #12: Mogami- & Tone-Class (Warships Of The Imperial Japanese Navy" Mogami, Mikuma, Suzuya & Tone)?J. Soca wrote:here is something else while i was looking at the shots i found one that shows the main range finder on top of the bridge painted white, at least it looks white to me possibly a 1944 refit.
If yes I think that the main range finder is grey and only in full light (other parts appear darker due to shadows.). On the left side there is white canvas over the frame of the accommodation ladder. I think that this is real white and it is lighter then the main range finder.
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Thats the picture Dirk and i can see what you are saying about the shades of colors. im contrasting the range finder to the turrets, it makes sence is the light what makes these look less grayer.
Jose
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Re: IJN Mogami (Tamiya 1/350)
Fantastic work, esp. the rigging, Dirk. Scuppers unlikely to be changed during her rebuild and white rangefinders for ID discontinued by early-mid 1943. FWIW, Dan
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Thanks Dan for your comments and info. Very welcome. There is always something to learn.
I finished now the rigging using only the UNI-Caenis 20den with a diameter of 48.8 �m. Electron microscope pictures of this material are here:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=59072
For the signal flags (Mogami197) I used now Teflon tape and hand painted it. My trials with masking the Teflon with Tamiya masking tape were not successful: The glue in the masking tape attacks the Teflon chemically. The rigging is now very thin and I added a lot of white isolators to make the rigging visible to the naked eye.
I finished now the rigging using only the UNI-Caenis 20den with a diameter of 48.8 �m. Electron microscope pictures of this material are here:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=59072
For the signal flags (Mogami197) I used now Teflon tape and hand painted it. My trials with masking the Teflon with Tamiya masking tape were not successful: The glue in the masking tape attacks the Teflon chemically. The rigging is now very thin and I added a lot of white isolators to make the rigging visible to the naked eye.
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IJN Mogami (Tamiya 1/350)
I added an emergency rudder. Just in case ...
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Re: IJN Mogami (Tamiya 1/350)
Hi Dirk,
fantastic work
The rigging looks very well!
Do you know how many time you have spent until now to build Mogami?
fantastic work
Do you know how many time you have spent until now to build Mogami?
Cheers,
Christian
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Thank you, Christian!
I really can not tell you how much time I spent.
But now the end is near. I started to improve some weak points. I removed the coarser thread for the rigging I used before and substituted it with UNI-Caenis (compare Mogami203 with Mogami201). I also substituted the coarse PE part of the crane (before in Mogami204) by UNI-Caenis (after in Mogami204).
I really can not tell you how much time I spent.
But now the end is near. I started to improve some weak points. I removed the coarser thread for the rigging I used before and substituted it with UNI-Caenis (compare Mogami203 with Mogami201). I also substituted the coarse PE part of the crane (before in Mogami204) by UNI-Caenis (after in Mogami204).
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Re: IJN Mogami (Tamiya 1/350)
just a outstanding build.

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Good idea with the crane rigging. 
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Thank you, gtbred and Marek!
I continued to add ropes for splinter protection (Mogami205). In this area I used real thread (Mogami206). Here (Mogami207) I used PE ropes (Rb7009 rope) from Rainbow. (They are for scale 1/700. Maybe too coarse for that scale, but perfect for 1/350.) Rainbow as a newcomer has already some cool PE frets out (see at http://www.rainbowmodel.com/default.asp).
The 1/700 frets �Rb7014 Accessory of bridge�, �Rb7003 IJN Anti-air platform rail� (errors on their homepage) and the hanging ladders are very cool. They also have PE cockpit frames! And unbelievable: check out the 1/350 hanging ladders RB3003. They can be folded and produce rows of step irons. I waited so long for this in 1/350! I bought already a lot of these goodies at Hobbyeasy http://www.hobbyeasy.com/en/category/SH ... /RAIN.html
I continued to add ropes for splinter protection (Mogami205). In this area I used real thread (Mogami206). Here (Mogami207) I used PE ropes (Rb7009 rope) from Rainbow. (They are for scale 1/700. Maybe too coarse for that scale, but perfect for 1/350.) Rainbow as a newcomer has already some cool PE frets out (see at http://www.rainbowmodel.com/default.asp).
The 1/700 frets �Rb7014 Accessory of bridge�, �Rb7003 IJN Anti-air platform rail� (errors on their homepage) and the hanging ladders are very cool. They also have PE cockpit frames! And unbelievable: check out the 1/350 hanging ladders RB3003. They can be folded and produce rows of step irons. I waited so long for this in 1/350! I bought already a lot of these goodies at Hobbyeasy http://www.hobbyeasy.com/en/category/SH ... /RAIN.html
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Re: IJN Mogami (Tamiya 1/350)
WOW, Dirk that is a sensational build. Gee if my Tamiya Mikuma in 1/350 is one-tenth as good as your Mogami, I'll be happy. Love the rigging and the weathering.
Bill Keough
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IJN Mogami (Tamiya 1/350)
Thank you and a lot of fun with Mikuma, Bill!
I have begun to add more sailors (L�Arsenal and Preiser).
I have begun to add more sailors (L�Arsenal and Preiser).