Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale

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Oh, next thing will be sanding and applying some filler and primer. I should then mount the rudders and after that inserting the main deck.

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That's looking better and better. It's amazing to see these horrible sharp lines in the hull (from a hydrodynamics point of view) but well done from a modelers point of view :thumbs_up_1:
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Hi Evert-Jan,

yes, these lines look strange, but basically they are present on all German capital ships. I sent you some drawings and you may be able to let us know what you think about it.

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Thanks you. Last time I took a look at the lines of Tirpitz I didn't notice that. For well-faired hull, they do seem to be anomalies. In order to see how they affect the flow, you'd have to perform a hull flow calculation and see how well the pressure behaves. That's actually the best way to see how well a hull is faired as the pressure distribution is very sensitive to the geometry and would give is some insight if the effect of the knuckle is large.

But the fairing at the forefoot is pretty lousy anyway :smallsmile: We try to avoid the lines leaving the keel at such an angle and always try to fair them into the keel plane. The flow is usually going down quite steeply over the first part of the bow running over the bow bilge.
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Hi,

before closing the hull by inserting the main deck I have to add the rudders. I started the reconstruction of the rudder in CorelDRAW.

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109 wrote:Hi,

before closing the hull by inserting the main deck I have to add the rudders. I started the reconstruction of the rudder in CorelDRAW.

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nice drawing and nice plan too :big_grin:
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Bernd,

Did the sea chests have gratings over them to fair them with the hull surface? This would minimize the disturbance to water flow over the hull.

The large size of the sea chest openings, compared to the diameter of the internal pipes, suggests a grating with the total area of the holes in the grating equal to the cross section of the internal pipe.

On some ships all smaller to mid size intakes have gratings, and some of the mid size exhausts have gratings. The larger intakes and exits are faired into the hull, with scoops on intakes to redirect flow into the ship and fairwaters on the exhausts to blend the flow back into the water stream.

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DrPR wrote:Bernd,

Did the sea chests have gratings over them to fair them with the hull surface? This would minimize the disturbance to water flow over the hull.

The large size of the sea chest openings, compared to the diameter of the internal pipes, suggests a grating with the total area of the holes in the grating equal to the cross section of the internal pipe.

On some ships all smaller to mid size intakes have gratings, and some of the mid size exhausts have gratings. The larger intakes and exits are faired into the hull, with scoops on intakes to redirect flow into the ship and fairwaters on the exhausts to blend the flow back into the water stream.

Phil

Hi,

all seaboxes have gratings, I will post pictures of my PE-parts this weekend. Artwork see file attached to this posting. I reconstructed the gratings according to a photo I have. The large water intake do also habe gratings, but a wider spaced variety.

Talk to you soon,

Bernd.
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Weekend ... :woo_hoo:

Picture showing my PE-gratings, mainly the larger ones.

Started the metal work on the rudders ...

Bye.
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PE-gratings. The grill in the center is for the cooling water outlet (14 x 11 mm) - the second largest grill. Only the grating of the cooling water inlet is larger.
PE-gratings. The grill in the center is for the cooling water outlet (14 x 11 mm) - the second largest grill. Only the grating of the cooling water inlet is larger.
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finest PE
wow :wave_1: :thumbs_up_1:
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Hi,

I made the artwork using CorelDRAW and sent it to SAEMANN for etching - highly recommended :thumbs_up_1:

Will you be doing PE? I will using them only to a limited degree as they are not suited for all detail work ... in my view, however.

Bye!
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A first dry fitting of the rudder to its shaft ...

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Shaft and rudder dry fit
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Hi 109
Great grills . :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:
If you are not living on the edge then you are taking up to much space
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109 wrote:Hi,

I made the artwork using CorelDRAW and sent it to SAEMANN for etching - highly recommended :thumbs_up_1:

Will you be doing PE? I will using them only to a limited degree as they are not suited for all detail work ... in my view, however.

Bye!
Bernd is expensive? :wave_1:
i never used PE always doing myself.
but seeing your PE give mes wishes to use it too :heh: :cool_2: :cool_2:
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109 wrote:A first dry fitting of the rudder to its shaft ...

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great rudder and shaft
i like :thumbs_up_1:
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Installing the rudder trunk ... :wave_1:
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Marking the psotion of rudder trunk at frame 12.5
Marking the psotion of rudder trunk at frame 12.5
The rudder trunks have a divergence of 16�
The rudder trunks have a divergence of 16�
Dryfitting
Dryfitting
Dryfitting with rudder
Dryfitting with rudder
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perfect work.
i apreciate one entire pic from the bottom hull if possible.
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I will give it a try - I only have a macro lens ...!

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Superb workmanship .Question how will you be shaping the rudder profile?
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Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale

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Hi Dave,

top and bottom of the blade has a tear drop shaped frame. I will post pictures tonight....

I enjoy your hangar build! :thumbs_up_1:

Bye,

Bernd.
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