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Incredible result so far Very impressive ship and even more impressive model!

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This is shaping up to be a very impressive model.

When it comes to OSV's where are good places to get plans?

Thank you

Robert

Robert,

It's not as easy as with warship plans. Only some old ships are available by plan suppliers.
So most of the time you have to get connected with a shipping company that is willing to give you some help.
And believe me, most of the time you get zero response.. Are you looking for a special type of supplier?

Gr.
Pim

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1/50 P4
1/50 ASD Waterstroom
1/50 Stantug 1907
1/50 AHTS Maersk Helper
1/50 AHT Zeus
1/50 ASD Mercurius
1/75 Stril Odin

Believe and act as if it were impossible to fail..

Pim,

At the beginning of this thread you said you wanted to do a good job of modelling this ship. Well, you are succeeding!

For those who may not have followed it from the beginning, keep in mind that this model is made of cardboard. I had a lot of doubts at the start, but you have made a believer out of me!

I do have a question. You have shown sea chests (nice detail) open to the interior of the hull. And you are installing thrusters and propellers as if you were going to operate the model on the water. If so, how are you going to finish the sea chests? Are you planning to use compartment flooding for ballast?

Phil

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Hey Phil,

Good thing to have restored your faith:)
The seachests are all closed off watertight with a box behind it.
No ballasting wih water, only batteries for maximum sailing time.
I now have 3 x 7,2 Ah batteries in the boat and 2 small steel plates aft for minor trimming.
And to prove to you that's it's seaworthy here are photo's of the first trials:



















She still is a little bit high on the water because I had only two batteries with me but she was already very stable while there was a lot of wind and current.

Gr.
Pim

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1/50 P4
1/50 ASD Waterstroom
1/50 Stantug 1907
1/50 AHTS Maersk Helper
1/50 AHT Zeus
1/50 ASD Mercurius
1/75 Stril Odin

Believe and act as if it were impossible to fail..

Hi Pim, oh yes. I work for an offshore oil and gas company and when visiting a rig, it was supplied by the "Normand Atlantic", and i have to say that class of vessel (UT 740) is very interesting, looks great. I also researched the Stril odin a little out of curiosity and came across the "Strill Commander" (Havyard 842 class) they also look good.

I have really only ever built warships, and have two major projects on the go (Arleigh Burke and Kirov cruiser) but I'm looking to try something that isn't painted grey...

Robert

Looks great on the water....
It appears you have access to the SMG Ijmond pond in Heemskerk.
Wish I could get some time in there...
I imagine it will be pretty busy there this weekend, the 23rd.
Post up some pictures from the event if you have the opportunity.

Met vriendelijke groeten,

Umi

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Hi Robert, looking forward to you building Stril Commander;)

Thanks Umi!! I didn't know the IJmond waters were world famous haha. It's an incredible piece of water to sail in offcourse!
Offcourse I'll shoot some photo's but I think there will be plenty of them on the net too. I'll give you the link when they are here.


To get ready for a meeting the 23rd, I apllied the decals last week. They were specially made by order and drawn myself on the computer to get the right distances between the numbers. After applying they were sealed with satin varnish.









Does it match?



Gr.
Pim

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1/50 P4
1/50 ASD Waterstroom
1/50 Stantug 1907
1/50 AHTS Maersk Helper
1/50 AHT Zeus
1/50 ASD Mercurius
1/75 Stril Odin

Believe and act as if it were impossible to fail..

After inspecting this ship with my own eyes last weekend, I must say I was more impressed (and convinced it was a really from paper), than before.
I've even had the luck of seeing it sail for a short while (and had the honor of talking to the builder).
Any more updates or construction work updates Pim?
Here's one I took last weekend at the Hobby show.

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Hey Neptune! (don't know if I can call you by your real name;))

That's a very nice picture you made, and thanks for the compliments! Was good to talk to you too, a bit too short because things were very busy like you can imagine with all the people around..
There will be an update anytime because it has been a while, mainly because of the birth of a son and the building of the second model you saw
Here is a picture of the sailing, she was handling very well! Going sideways with a little touch to the stick and very manoeverable going astern..



Gr.
Pim

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1/50 P4
1/50 ASD Waterstroom
1/50 Stantug 1907
1/50 AHTS Maersk Helper
1/50 AHT Zeus
1/50 ASD Mercurius
1/75 Stril Odin

Believe and act as if it were impossible to fail..

Sure you can, everybody around here knows my name, the Neptune tag just goes a long way back...

One thing I was wondering, because I saw it sailing so shortly... I noticed you have a very similar freeboard to mine, so I was wondering if you have lots of water coming over when going at speed and manoeuvring?
The main deck of Chaconia is just slightly higher than your aft sides, so I'm kind of curious to see how my details will keep

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When you say "cardboard" it means nothing.
Can you tell us if it is single weight ,double weight, or triple weight illustration board?
Is it purchased from a art store? Picture framers ?
Is it white on both sides?

Otherwise it is like when a math teacher gives you a problem and you asked where he got the numbers, and he says, " I picked them at random." Then I say ,"What if the numbers were too large or too small?"
He says, "That is not your concern." that is one reason I did not learn math very well. I want the whole story,not just part of it.

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Very nice model and great workmanship!

The only thing I would change is the red paint. It does not look right at all.
I lived on boats most of my life.
Paint the bottom with rusty red metal primer if you ever paint it again.
The it will look real. That is what real bottom paint looks like.

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Colours are not always represented correctly on computer monitors, whether as a result of the camera and lighting settings or because your monitor shows colours different from the original. Regardless, the builder posted a photo of the real ship's hull bottom colour, and the model's shade is, I think, a good match for a new coat of paint.

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De quoi s'agit-il?

Checked it with my own eyes, it's a pretty good match right now.
In the past anti-fouling paints mainly based on the same ingredients also giving them the very same "rust primer" look/colour.
Nowadays there are a multitude of anti-fouling paints, including silicone paints and self-polishing ones, it depends on what you will use your ship for. They all have different colours. The paint used on this model also very much reflects the paint on tankers.

As for the cardboard, in the first post of this topic he mentions all thicknesses and type of cardboard he used.

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Thanks Luky. As said earlier by Neptune, all materials used are mentioned in my first few posts in this topic. I do regularly use the rusty metal paint on other boats, but all colours of the Odin were supplied by Simon Mokster Shipping so no reason to doubt that. And as you can see on the newbuild photo at the beginning of this page it's a sort of purple, not brownish red. The photo used in my reply however was 'touched up' a little so in reality it does look a little darker.

Neptune, the pool used didn't have much waves going on and the ship was on her unloaded waterline so a lot of freeboard was available.
Second, the ship is very stable as it was used for carrying pipes and does have an extreme beam of the hull. I did get some water on the freeing ports but absolutely nothing on the maindeck as I even sailed with a not watertight deck cover.
Also the portholes in the bow are not closed yet with glass and I think because of the flare of the bow no water came in here as well. The bow-wave did roll over the 'bulb' with significant height though..
Last year I sailed the Odin in Bf.6 in a pond and she only tilted over 1 degree or 2.

Every ship behaves on a different way even as a model so it's not save to say you have no water on your Chaconia. Keep in mind that you are using a smaller scale than me so I doubt that you have the same freeboard as me. Also a different hull form which will react more slower than the Odin on incoming waves I guess.
You'll have to try it out and let me know:)

Gr.
Pim

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1/50 P4
1/50 ASD Waterstroom
1/50 Stantug 1907
1/50 AHTS Maersk Helper
1/50 AHT Zeus
1/50 ASD Mercurius
1/75 Stril Odin

Believe and act as if it were impossible to fail..

I forgot about the computer monitor factor.
I have a MAC computer and it displays colors with more light.

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Hi Pim,

well I measured my freeboard, I have 6.6cm on the main deck. The forecastle is 9.5 - 10cm high. That is on summer draft. Considering the weight, I think I'll go for ballasted weight which will also give her some additional cm of freeboard.
Indeed there is a big difference between the artificial pool they used at Goes and any open water place.

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I sailed with a draft of 6.0 cm (should be 6,6) The freeboard of my maindeck was 4.0 cm. While my bow was 11,2 cm above the waterline.
My maindeck however is totally enclosed and the cargorail details are on the shelterdeck so any water splashing up has to travel a distance of 7.5 cm.
It's a little bit more as your Chaconia, mainly because of the difference in scale. I think your deck will get wet in any bit of wind condition.

Gr.
Pim

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1/50 P4
1/50 ASD Waterstroom
1/50 Stantug 1907
1/50 AHTS Maersk Helper
1/50 AHT Zeus
1/50 ASD Mercurius
1/75 Stril Odin

Believe and act as if it were impossible to fail..

Great work mate. I'll keep a eye on this posting. Well done.

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Mick
Tumut Australia