Calling all Cyclone-class (PC-1) patrol ship fans

[carr]

That would be a great one to do in 1/72nd.

That's my thoughts as well.

Are you guys urging me to reconsider my future 1/100 build or are you suggesting 1/72 as a good kit scale? Personally, I wish someone manufactured a hull in 1/96 or 1/72 scale, but I don't know of any.

Regards,
Bob

[Russ2146]

Bob,

Sorry. Guess we need some new ones quick.


Navy �Grounds� Cyclone Class Coastal Patrol Boats


The US Navy announced today it has found �significant structural� damage and corrosion in its fleet of Cyclone-class patrol coastal vessels based in Norfolk, Va., and forward deployed to the 5th fleet in Bahrain.

According to the Navy, the vessels � 10 in all � are all �at or beyond� their 15-year service life and recent inspections revealed frame buckling and damage to the hulls.

The service said all PC operations have ceased pending repairs.

The PCs have lightweight structure designed for high performance and a service life of 15 years. With the exception of PC 14 they are all at or beyond their service life. The condition of the hull structure is the cumulative result of a full service life of operation including the effects of corrosion and severe operating conditions. It is not generally possible to identify one event or single root cause of the damage.

The Navy is also coordinating with the Coast Guard to inspect the three vessels it�s borrowing for domestic patrols. The Navy is also coordinating with the Philippine navy on the one PC it obtained in 2004.

The primary mission of these ships is coastal patrol, interdiction, and surveillance; an important aspect of littoral operations outlined in the Navy�s strategy. The Cyclone-class PCs are particularly suited for maritime security missions and have been employed jointly with the U.S. Coast Guard to help protect our nation�s coastline, ports and waterways from terrorist attack. The ships are also forward deployed to the Gulf region in support of 5th Fleet operations.

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Read more: http://defensetech.org/2010/09/15/navy- ... z0ziM3Elp2
Defense.org

[migoat]

Are you guys urging me to reconsider my future 1/100 build or are you suggesting 1/72 as a good kit scale? Personally, I wish someone manufactured a hull in 1/96 or 1/72 scale, but I don't know of any.

Regards,
Bob

Here you go, a Cyclone hull in 1/96....http://www.group8models.com/cyclone.htm

[carr]

Here you go, a Cyclone hull in 1/96....http://www.group8models.com/cyclone.htm

Thanks! Have you, or anyone else, had any experience with this company?

[migoat]

Here you go, a Cyclone hull in 1/96....http://www.group8models.com/cyclone.htm

Thanks! Have you, or anyone else, had any experience with this company?

No, sorry. All though I am really tempted to give them a try...I could go for the Cyclone or the AVP hull they have, maybe both!
I would check on the Warship Models Underway Forums.

[Russ2146]

NukeMM has the Barnegat Class AVP hull, though he hasn't started his build. He could probably give you an idea of the accuracy of that hull, as the resident Barnegat Class guru.

[Guest]

I was stationed on one of these for 2 years for the cg..I was on. CGC tornado PC-14. If you want info I can probably help.. levifclow@hotmail.com. I'd love to get a model of her!

[navydavesof]

What about a new class of PC? Reposted in a new thread.

viewtopic.php?f=67&t=106226

[SumGui]

Some answers to the questions above:

Sonar retracts through the hull, therefore cannot be used at any significant speed, really. Aperture in the hull is circular, and is located in the forward engine room.

The similarity to the USCG Island class cutters is a no brainer - the Cyclones are the same design stretched to include an additional engine room and some compartments aft - like 'SEAL prep' and the swim platform (removed when they were refit with the ramp). It can also be said the Islands are a modification of the same Vosper design - any way you slice it, they are related by their origin. They also inherited short hull life due to the Vosper specifications for brittle steel in the hull (see below).

The PC-9 picture shows one idea of how to improve the RHIB handling, that pic predates her refit with the ramp. It was one option that was not the winner. What I heard third hand about the picture application is that it could handle multiple CRRCs (side by side) but not a larger RHIB.

'Significant Structural Damage' should not be surprising - they were not designed and constructed to last the 20 years they have. The steel used was UK spec (this is a Vosper design, thus Vosper specs for the design, including weight, thickness, and type of material for the hull), and was more brittle than what would normally be used by the USN. Zephyr seemed to fight hull cracks from the very beginning.

I was aboard USS Squall (PC-7) with the commissioning crew. We usually worked with USS Zephyr (PC-8) and MST-III (Maintenance and Support Team). I was aboard before the refit to the RHIB ramp. Edit to add - I also served aboard USS Whirlwind (PC-11).

Their acquisition process was really convoluted, the concept/need was a replacement for PB IIIs with better support for SEALS and increased endurance. A massively bureaucratic process led to failures of design to the actual need (in fact, some commissioning crew had orders to a '90ft PB'), and eventually an 'off the shelf' design was chosen and modified. This resulted in a vessel well over 100ft in length, which mean the USN would treat it as a ship, not a boat, thus requirements were heaped upon her (Fire Fighting gear, systems redundancy, vessel must be manned at all times (in port watch), watch standing and navigation requirements, etc). This really broke the idea that it was to be a PB to get in close, and made sure it was over priced (both in acquisition and operations) for what was intended. It really wasn't until the USN decided they needed patrol/security assets after 9/11 that they finally found a 'home'. The original concept would be filled by the Mk V.

[jpdyno2]

I did a brief 6 week stint on Monsoon, and we had the new RHIB ramp set up. We never stayed at sea more than 5 days. We weren't out of fuel, but water.

storage capacity on there for anything was extremely limited.

I'd LOVE to see a kit of this class in any scale, though I'd prefer 1/350. I'm attempting to build an example of every class I served on and this would be one.

1/700 though may as well be a matchstick.

[SumGui]

I'd like to see 1/350 or larger (1/72 would be cool...)

But I have two in 1/1250:

viewtopic.php?f=32&t=152526

and you all thought 1/700 would be small...

[Sean Hert]

http://news.usni.org/2013/07/03/u-s-nav ... urce=pubv1

[SumGui]

Hi everyone
now please don't jump the gun but what i need to know is this, if a resin kit of this class was available in 1/700 waterline would there be a market for it. There were changes made in the design as each one was launched so would a hull based on cyclone herself be popular.

Let me know what you think please and feel free to check out http://www.finewaterline.com


Roy

There is a resin 1/700 kit available:
http://ptdockyard.com/narrow-seas/1700-fast-attack/

[jpdyno2]

I think a 1/700 of this class in any medium would be too small to enjoy. 1/350 is the way to go if you ask me.

just my two cents, but even the full size ship is small. I served on Monsoon and can attest to that. lol.

[cdsc123]

I do them in 1/72nd;

https://www.flickr.com/photos/25721684@ ... 2269542118

Regards,
Christian
mtbhulls

[Sputnikk]

I have a cyclone hull for sale for $90, and a structure in 3D.
Eric
eric@homeportmodels.com

[carr]

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[brayski]

greetings Cyclone Class fans
i am just trying to collect ships serving the Philippine Navy, past and present (1/700 and 1/350), my eyes got strained making 1/700 so i switch to 1/350.
i tried building 350th scale using paper, it's not that accurate but the general appearance is similar

[HvyCgn9]

I'd like to see 1/350 or larger (1/72 would be cool...)

But I have two in 1/1250:

viewtopic.php?f=32&t=152526

and you all thought 1/700 would be small...

MTB hulls does a 1/72 F/glass hull, a full ($$$$)3D superstructure is available on shapeways

Bruce

[Haijun watcher]

A 1/700 scale 3D-printed version of the Cyclone patrol craft class is now available from the Shapeways vendor "Bills Models".

Thus one who wants to model one of the Cyclone class PCs in USN service or the Philippine Navy's lone Cyclone class BRP Mariano Alvarez now have another option.