Sailing ships in general are not my world in general, but I love such outstanding detailing always!
To HMS Victory and beyond
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- Christian M.
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Re: To HMS Victory and beyond
Just unbelievable what is shown here ... If someone I don't trust 100% only tells me about this, I will not believe him
Sailing ships in general are not my world in general, but I love such outstanding detailing always!
Sailing ships in general are not my world in general, but I love such outstanding detailing always!
The advantage of wisdom is that you can play dumb; conversely, it is more difficult.
- dafi
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Re: To HMS Victory and beyond
Thank you Sirs 
Here we went on in the lower deck, getting tighter ...
...first table dummies ...

... followed by some real model making ...

Here we went on in the lower deck, getting tighter ...
...first table dummies ...

... followed by some real model making ...

To Victory and beyond ...
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- dafi
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Re: To HMS Victory and beyond
... first trials on the spacious side ...

... and tight we go.



bom apetite!
XXXDAn

... and tight we go.



bom apetite!
XXXDAn
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- LE BOSCO
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Re: To HMS Victory and beyond
Hello Daniel
I have only one thing to say !total respect master
By moment , your work "flirt" with the"poetry"
"chapeau bas l'artiste"
cheers
Nicolas
I have only one thing to say !total respect master
"chapeau bas l'artiste"
cheers
Nicolas
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Re: To HMS Victory and beyond
They look disappointed. I imagine the table conversation is something like this:
"We ain't 'ad nuttin but maggoty bread fo' three stinkin' days"
"Yea... we wants some meat! ...'ow bout them, they're fressh!"

Still, hats off as usual Daniel, and I will literally cry when you seal up all that insane detail untill you do the same on the next deck!
"We ain't 'ad nuttin but maggoty bread fo' three stinkin' days"
"Yea... we wants some meat! ...'ow bout them, they're fressh!"

Still, hats off as usual Daniel, and I will literally cry when you seal up all that insane detail untill you do the same on the next deck!
-Jason Channell
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As the set of my etch parts is already with me and almost ready to be distributed, I am still trying out the last production samples just to make sure everything really fits and also refining my own skills and technics.
To prepare the locks I worked hard to cut off the small bit that fixes it to the frame. Also handling and positioning was quite difficult as the parts are tiny.
The first idea was to use this bit it as a connector pin
So a small hole drilled into position which makes positioning and glueing easier and the lock more stable afterwards. After breaking two 0,4 drills, I got the second idea: Why drilling? A needle does the job better and faster ...
... so a needle fixed in a tooth pick ...

... a small well positioned acupuncture and then using fine pliers instead of tweezers ...

... got it fast and safe on the spot. The fine pliers do not have the tendency to send things into the parallel universes as much as tweezers do

Also tried out an alternative to the rings on the breech using etch rings instead of wire. Also a great way with the needle to prepare the fixing holes. Depending to the knowledge and skill of the modeler, the rings can be made a tad more even like this than using wire.


And also trying out other ways of working on difficult parts, here the back of a blade in a clamp for bending the bucket holders on the poop.

Daniel
To prepare the locks I worked hard to cut off the small bit that fixes it to the frame. Also handling and positioning was quite difficult as the parts are tiny.
The first idea was to use this bit it as a connector pin
... so a needle fixed in a tooth pick ...

... a small well positioned acupuncture and then using fine pliers instead of tweezers ...

... got it fast and safe on the spot. The fine pliers do not have the tendency to send things into the parallel universes as much as tweezers do

Also tried out an alternative to the rings on the breech using etch rings instead of wire. Also a great way with the needle to prepare the fixing holes. Depending to the knowledge and skill of the modeler, the rings can be made a tad more even like this than using wire.


And also trying out other ways of working on difficult parts, here the back of a blade in a clamp for bending the bucket holders on the poop.

Daniel
To Victory and beyond ...
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- dafi
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Re: To HMS Victory and beyond
As the set of my etch parts is already with me and almost ready to be distributed, I am still trying out the last production samples just to make sure everything really fits and also refining my own skills and technics.
To prepare the locks I worked hard to cut off the small bit that fixes it to the frame. Also handling and positioning was quite difficult as the parts are tiny.
The first idea was to use this bit it as a connector pin
So a small hole drilled into position which makes positioning and glueing easier and the lock more stable afterwards. After breaking two 0,4 drills, I got the second idea: Why drilling? A needle does the job better and faster ...
... so a needle fixed in a tooth pick ...

... a small well positioned acupuncture and then using fine pliers instead of tweezers ...

... got it fast and safe on the spot. The fine pliers do not have the tendency to send things into the parallel universes as much as tweezers do

Also tried out an alternative to the rings on the breech using etch rings instead of wire. Also a great way with the needle to prepare the fixing holes. Depending to the knowledge and skill of the modeler, the rings can be made a tad more even like this than using wire.


And also trying out other ways of working on difficult parts, here the back of a blade in a clamp for bending the bucket holders on the poop.

Daniel
To prepare the locks I worked hard to cut off the small bit that fixes it to the frame. Also handling and positioning was quite difficult as the parts are tiny.
The first idea was to use this bit it as a connector pin
... so a needle fixed in a tooth pick ...

... a small well positioned acupuncture and then using fine pliers instead of tweezers ...

... got it fast and safe on the spot. The fine pliers do not have the tendency to send things into the parallel universes as much as tweezers do

Also tried out an alternative to the rings on the breech using etch rings instead of wire. Also a great way with the needle to prepare the fixing holes. Depending to the knowledge and skill of the modeler, the rings can be made a tad more even like this than using wire.


And also trying out other ways of working on difficult parts, here the back of a blade in a clamp for bending the bucket holders on the poop.

Daniel
To Victory and beyond ...
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Re: To HMS Victory and beyond
excellent-- and wonderfully obsessive!
JIM B
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- dafi
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Re: To HMS Victory and beyond
Thank you Jim 
So last night�s tinkering ...
... the spectecal plates of the rudder ...

... the new poop skylight with bending help in the back ...

... roof curved by rolling with a wooden stick over a soft surface ...

... and especially round roof and right number of windows
.

The fighting top with lantern holder...

... and the stun�sail boom fittings.


Cheers, Daniel
So last night�s tinkering ...
... the spectecal plates of the rudder ...

... the new poop skylight with bending help in the back ...

... roof curved by rolling with a wooden stick over a soft surface ...

... and especially round roof and right number of windows

The fighting top with lantern holder...

... and the stun�sail boom fittings.


Cheers, Daniel
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- Captain pugwash
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Re: To HMS Victory and beyond
Daft it may seem to some, but fantastic work there Dafi.
Am building a 1/180 Victory, this alteration you are doing will give me the imput I need to get mine right.
This is a great WIP and may it continue.
Cheers capt-P
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Am building a 1/180 Victory, this alteration you are doing will give me the imput I need to get mine right.
This is a great WIP and may it continue.
Cheers capt-P
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So tinkertime goes on ...
... the funnel on the forecastle ...


... flaglocker, I opted for the closed one ...

... and the boom saddle and the rack for the pins on the mizzen


The belaying pins stay hand-worked
Cheers, Daniel
... the funnel on the forecastle ...


... flaglocker, I opted for the closed one ...

... and the boom saddle and the rack for the pins on the mizzen


The belaying pins stay hand-worked
Cheers, Daniel
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Re: To HMS Victory and beyond
The sky lights, is there a kit for this and any other parts you have used and not made from scratch.
Would like to get hold of some of the ready made parts,PE frets if avalible.
Cheers Capt-P.
Would like to get hold of some of the ready made parts,PE frets if avalible.
Cheers Capt-P.
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- dafi
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Still setting up things, the parts already on my place, here is a sneak preview, the links for the english sites not all working yet, but soon to be added 
http://www.dafinismus.de/index_en.html
http://www.dafinismus.de/plates_en.html
http://www.dafinismus.de/order.html
The official roll-out will come soon.
Daniel
http://www.dafinismus.de/index_en.html
http://www.dafinismus.de/plates_en.html
http://www.dafinismus.de/order.html
The official roll-out will come soon.
Daniel
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- Captain pugwash
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Re: To HMS Victory and beyond
Thanks Dafi.
Can thease be used for 180 as its not far off, or do I have to get a 100 scale ship to use thease parts.
Fantastic they are.
Excuse my ignorance.
.
Cheers Capt-P
Can thease be used for 180 as its not far off, or do I have to get a 100 scale ship to use thease parts.
Fantastic they are.
Excuse my ignorance.
Cheers Capt-P
Cornwall UK
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Re: To HMS Victory and beyond
Hello Capt-P,
I think they are too far off, for those you really need to get the big kit
Ringbolts and gratings could be used, but have you seen the material from ScaleWarship?
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All the best, Daniel
I think they are too far off, for those you really need to get the big kit
Ringbolts and gratings could be used, but have you seen the material from ScaleWarship?
viewtopic.php?t=152157#p586267
All the best, Daniel
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- dafi
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The most tricky part so far, the boarding pikes holders:
First glueing two rings atop of each other, the needles making sure, that the holes of the upper ring will be lined properly ...

... while the one on the bottom has pocket holes.

Then putting both rings over the mast ...

... and cutting the same amount of holes on both rings away until the diameter fits properly. Taking a pike and sorting out the heights for that the beautiful point of the spear does not disappear in the ring. Then glueing first the inside of the upper ring onto the rubbing pouch and let dry well. Afterwards bend into place and fix it on the other side and in the back.

Use one pike for the alinement of the two rings and fix the bottom ring also in two steps. Then take out the pike and bend carefully straight and horizontal and glue it to its final position ...

... and fill with the boarding pikes.

With a tad of color and rope it could look like this

As I always moan about the Prince of Wales� feathers, it is time to sratch them off and replace them by a cute five piece crown - a pure dafinistique hypothesis
...

... and fix some more stable lamp holders.

Amicalement, Daniel
First glueing two rings atop of each other, the needles making sure, that the holes of the upper ring will be lined properly ...

... while the one on the bottom has pocket holes.

Then putting both rings over the mast ...

... and cutting the same amount of holes on both rings away until the diameter fits properly. Taking a pike and sorting out the heights for that the beautiful point of the spear does not disappear in the ring. Then glueing first the inside of the upper ring onto the rubbing pouch and let dry well. Afterwards bend into place and fix it on the other side and in the back.

Use one pike for the alinement of the two rings and fix the bottom ring also in two steps. Then take out the pike and bend carefully straight and horizontal and glue it to its final position ...

... and fill with the boarding pikes.

With a tad of color and rope it could look like this

As I always moan about the Prince of Wales� feathers, it is time to sratch them off and replace them by a cute five piece crown - a pure dafinistique hypothesis

... and fix some more stable lamp holders.

Amicalement, Daniel
To Victory and beyond ...
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- dafi
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Just to show, not everything turned out perfect in the first go. Here a trial with open flag lockers: Too much space on the plate, too complicated in assembly and most importend: too little sex-appeal as it looks horrid!

So being eliminated with no hesitation for V2 and adding other more sexy goodies instead ...

... so, the bell can be rang
XXXDAn

So being eliminated with no hesitation for V2 and adding other more sexy goodies instead ...

... so, the bell can be rang
XXXDAn
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- dafi
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So here comes my littel masterpiece also known as the revised binnacle.
Well chucked the grooves on the backside provide help in placing and bending

Using a hard and crisp tool to bend ...

... loosened after the first step, a doubled paper being put underneath for a tad of extra height, retracted the paper and by rolling with a wooden rod the corners are subdued into perfection.

The most tricky is always the last bent. Here for I used Tesa double sided tape to fix the part on the table and inserted a 3 mm Plexi and bending the brass over it - I love when dafi�s well planned brainfarts work out well

Then using fine pliers to adjust the corner�s angles ...

... and we are awarded with a nice and crisp box

The lid for the small funnel is formed using a center punch.

The inner table should not be too much of a problem after all this
Cutting out the binnacle�s top, stacking the layer cake compasses, and adding the needed extra parts: evergreen rod 2 mm for the lantern (a toothpick will be ok too), 1 mm Evergreen rod for the funnel, a 0,2 mm sheet for the inner base (cardboard will work also), 2 Rings for the bracing onto the deck and transparent film for the windows ...

... and just fixed

Left the etch-binnacle Mark 1, in the middle the new one with now crisp drawers and right the also rivised rudder column, now with crisp lawrels
All the best, Daniel
Well chucked the grooves on the backside provide help in placing and bending

Using a hard and crisp tool to bend ...

... loosened after the first step, a doubled paper being put underneath for a tad of extra height, retracted the paper and by rolling with a wooden rod the corners are subdued into perfection.

The most tricky is always the last bent. Here for I used Tesa double sided tape to fix the part on the table and inserted a 3 mm Plexi and bending the brass over it - I love when dafi�s well planned brainfarts work out well

Then using fine pliers to adjust the corner�s angles ...

... and we are awarded with a nice and crisp box

The lid for the small funnel is formed using a center punch.

The inner table should not be too much of a problem after all this

... and just fixed

Left the etch-binnacle Mark 1, in the middle the new one with now crisp drawers and right the also rivised rudder column, now with crisp lawrels
All the best, Daniel
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- Captain pugwash
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Re: To HMS Victory and beyond
Fantastico Daniel.
I am in the progress of purchaseing from that firm on the 180 scale ship.
So it will be a little harder to bring to life as in your scale build
.
But will be having a go.
.
Great to see your work and inspiring build.
I am in the progress of purchaseing from that firm on the 180 scale ship.
So it will be a little harder to bring to life as in your scale build
But will be having a go.
Great to see your work and inspiring build.
Cornwall UK
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And by the way, what makes the Vic so interesting?
Very clear - maaaaaaaaaany biiiiiiig guns, very maaaaaaaaaacho
Therefor I ask for your forgiveness as I almost forgot the most biiiig, maaaaaaaaale and maaaaacho gun ....
�

... biiiiig things ...
... really big ...
... the dafi
Very clear - maaaaaaaaaany biiiiiiig guns, very maaaaaaaaaacho
Therefor I ask for your forgiveness as I almost forgot the most biiiig, maaaaaaaaale and maaaaacho gun ....
�

... biiiiig things ...
... really big ...
... the dafi
To Victory and beyond ...
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