1/700 Tamiya USS Yorktown CV-5 OOB Build Log

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1/700 Tamiya USS Yorktown CV-5 OOB Build Log

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Well, I just picked her up today at the local crack house *AHEM* I mean hobby shop, a very nice place called Nankin Hobby where everybody knows my name, hee-hee. Though I've built plenty of models including aircraft, tanks and ships, this'll be my first go at a build log. I can't promise great shots when picture time comes, but the camera will be good at least and I've got a tripod to hold it steady.

Anyway, the purpose of this build is to show that an out-of-box build is entirely possible, because I can't really afford to drop the big bucks on photo etch, and let's be honest my skills in that medium are limited at best. I've had some practice recently with Tamiya's 1/700 HMS Nelson, which turned out surprisingly good. I'm also keen to put my airbrush to the test in this build, it'll certainly be better than brush-painting (I've had rather disappointing experiences with that method). Can't promise a very good air wing either, as my eyes are already quite handicapped.

In any case, wish me luck!
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Parts layout, only nipped of a couple of extra bits
Parts layout, only nipped of a couple of extra bits
Thank goodness Tamiya has started adding scale color drawings...
Thank goodness Tamiya has started adding scale color drawings...
Last edited by Goodwood on Sat Nov 23, 2013 5:57 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Nice! Ill watch this thread seeing as how I'm building CV10. :)

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Re: 1/700 Tamiya USS Yorktown CV-5 OOB

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Well, so much for OOB.
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Top and bottom island sections
Top and bottom island sections
Note the nasty gap in the Vulture's Nest that needs to be filled.
Note the nasty gap in the Vulture's Nest that needs to be filled.
Unfortunately the only square rod stock I have is .60, so it had to be sanded down and the gap enlarged slightly. Putty will do the rest.
Unfortunately the only square rod stock I have is .60, so it had to be sanded down and the gap enlarged slightly. Putty will do the rest.
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Cheater! Definitely gotta slide some styrene in there though with a fit like that- lookin good.

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Yeah, remember when I wanted to do this ship totally OOB?

(Apologies for my photography skills, or lack thereof.)
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Big gap in vulture's nest filled, though not the neatest job in the universe.
Big gap in vulture's nest filled, though not the neatest job in the universe.
I could've swore I put the stack roof on the right way. Alas.
I could've swore I put the stack roof on the right way. Alas.
After doing a bit of research (thanks, CASF forum!) I decided to do a bit of modification. The strip styrene I had on hand just happens to be the right thickness!
After doing a bit of research (thanks, CASF forum!) I decided to do a bit of modification. The strip styrene I had on hand just happens to be the right thickness!
Kit part on left, modification on right. Still needs cleanup especially with that ugly sink mark.
Kit part on left, modification on right. Still needs cleanup especially with that ugly sink mark.
I cut down the flag bridge the best these eyes could figure from some photos. Should look more like Yorktown with these mods complete. Three more 5"/38 platforms to go!
I cut down the flag bridge the best these eyes could figure from some photos. Should look more like Yorktown with these mods complete. Three more 5"/38 platforms to go!
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Good correction for the 5/38 gun box. Looks like they put those in from the Hornet kit instead of the Enterprise kit.

I do have a question on that rear "vultures nest", mainly what you're trying to accomplish. As far as accuracy goes, the Yorktown didn't have one.

http://www.navsource.org/archives/02/020536.jpg
http://www.navsource.org/archives/02/020526c.jpg

So all you should really do is remove the lower part of the nest thats molded into the deck, place a piece of plastic styrene on the inside of the funnel, and putty over to fill the inside.

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Funnily enough I already had the island fully-assembled and primed when you posted this, mate. Still, I went ahead and took up my carving tools and did my best to nix the "nest" without doing too much damage to the overall assembly. Photos to come; I've started work on the forward hull.

It's a good thing I learned to apply filler putty with a toothpick!
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Well, as promised, here are some photos!
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The island is assembled, primed and ready for moar filler!
The island is assembled, primed and ready for moar filler!
More gaps evident, but you can see where I filed off the fake vulture's nest and chopped back the admiral's bridge.
More gaps evident, but you can see where I filed off the fake vulture's nest and chopped back the admiral's bridge.
Top with radar; yes photo etch would look better, but it's so tiny!
Top with radar; yes photo etch would look better, but it's so tiny!
Top-down view.
Top-down view.
Started assembly of the hull. Lots of gaps here to fill�good thing I learned how to properly apply putty!
Started assembly of the hull. Lots of gaps here to fill�good thing I learned how to properly apply putty!
More gaps evident.
More gaps evident.
Starboard bow, dunno about that degaussing cable...
Starboard bow, dunno about that degaussing cable...
As you can see the waterline piece doesn't quite fit the hull. I've thought about correcting the bow, using that step as a starting point, but my scratchbuilding skills in this scale are almost nonexistent.
As you can see the waterline piece doesn't quite fit the hull. I've thought about correcting the bow, using that step as a starting point, but my scratchbuilding skills in this scale are almost nonexistent.
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Finished assembling the main hull, including the corrected 5"/38 gun tubs plus the guns themselves. The hangar deck is closed off, none of the doors are open as there's really no point IMHO trying to fill out the hangar when I'm not going to be PE-ing it up with this kit.

Here's a general view with the flight deck and completed island dry-fitted, just for lulz:
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Bow area filled and sanded, ready for primer.
Bow area filled and sanded, ready for primer.
Starboard forward area, just needs a bit of toothpick love.
Starboard forward area, just needs a bit of toothpick love.
Port stern. Fit was quite good with a little coaxing, though sandpaper and a touch of filler may still be needed.
Port stern. Fit was quite good with a little coaxing, though sandpaper and a touch of filler may still be needed.
And yes, a little touch of filler will be needed.
And yes, a little touch of filler will be needed.
This is Part C-17, which the instructions tell you to add as one of the very last bits. This is after the flight deck is cemented and you're putting the island on. Unfortunately, following the instructions as written would make it exceedingly difficult to mask off the flight deck effectively, so that you get the Deck Blue surrounded with Haze Gray, for the final color scheme. It also makes it a heck of a lot easier to paint the horizontal surfaces of the hangar level, forecastle, and fantail prior to permanently attaching the flight deck and island. Test fitting has confirmed that the process will work.
This is Part C-17, which the instructions tell you to add as one of the very last bits. This is after the flight deck is cemented and you're putting the island on. Unfortunately, following the instructions as written would make it exceedingly difficult to mask off the flight deck effectively, so that you get the Deck Blue surrounded with Haze Gray, for the final color scheme. It also makes it a heck of a lot easier to paint the horizontal surfaces of the hangar level, forecastle, and fantail prior to permanently attaching the flight deck and island. Test fitting has confirmed that the process will work.
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Very nice attention to detail - looking sweet!

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Thanks, Kyle.

I read your in-progress build of Trumpeter's 1/350 CV-10 Yorktown a while back when I first got the kit (almost a year ago, I think), and really admire your craftsmanship in detailing her up. Let's hope that someday I can do something similar; this baby is as much a practice run for the bigger kit as anything.
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Yet more adventures in modeling 1/700!

The story so far: I've thrown the first coat of primer onto the hull in the usual (well, so I've learned) check for gaps/imperfections/divots/rough patches. Naturally, a few of each were found, most notably at the back of the hull where the forward 5"/38 gun tubs rest. There were still a few rough patches to sand down, but I think those have been taken care of nicely. There's a couple more gaps at the forecastle that'll need another go with the filler/sandpaper, as well as the divots, then another coat can be tossed on to check everything over again.

I have also finished assembling the flight deck, at least the main parts. The instructions call for mounting 3mm bits of plastic rod (provided as part A-45) for the single-mount 20mm AA guns, though I have no idea if this is even feasible for my jam hands. There's also the gun tubs for the Chicago Pianos, but those'll go on last once they and everything else are painted.
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Dimple as described; the exact same thing is present on the opposite side of the hull. Note the small platform, which in the stock hull is a bit odd-shaped based on some other hulls I've seen. While this may not be perfect, it's probably a decent enough effort though it'll still need a little more smoothing in addition to fixing the divot(s).
Dimple as described; the exact same thing is present on the opposite side of the hull. Note the small platform, which in the stock hull is a bit odd-shaped based on some other hulls I've seen. While this may not be perfect, it's probably a decent enough effort though it'll still need a little more smoothing in addition to fixing the divot(s).
Portside hull, facing aft.
Portside hull, facing aft.
Fantail and port rear.
Fantail and port rear.
Forward flight deck underside.
Forward flight deck underside.
Aft flight deck underside. Both ends are fairly detailed for their scale.
Aft flight deck underside. Both ends are fairly detailed for their scale.
Top-down view of flight deck (can't see many details due to bad photographer). I'm actually contemplating sanding the whole thing flat save for the metal grating and just scribing in the planking detail as well as adding arresting wires from ultrafine filament, but my scribing skills are limited (nonexistent in this scale) and the whole effort might not pay off like one would hope.
Top-down view of flight deck (can't see many details due to bad photographer). I'm actually contemplating sanding the whole thing flat save for the metal grating and just scribing in the planking detail as well as adding arresting wires from ultrafine filament, but my scribing skills are limited (nonexistent in this scale) and the whole effort might not pay off like one would hope.
Close-up of fantail, post sanding. Things here seem to look in order, though don't let that deter you from spotting rough patches or gaps.
Close-up of fantail, post sanding. Things here seem to look in order, though don't let that deter you from spotting rough patches or gaps.
Close-up of forecastle. Yes I'm aware of the nasty gaps, though what worries me later on is how I'm gonna pick out the anchor chain detail for painting. I have no idea where to get 1/700 scale anchor chain, otherwise I'd consider getting some.
Close-up of forecastle. Yes I'm aware of the nasty gaps, though what worries me later on is how I'm gonna pick out the anchor chain detail for painting. I have no idea where to get 1/700 scale anchor chain, otherwise I'd consider getting some.
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Very nice! Those dimples are a bummer though - a blob of putty and sanding down in finer layers will work, though be a pain... Especially with feathering the edges into the plastic.

For chain, do you have like a Hobby Lobby, AC Moore, Michaels, etc around you? I hit up Hobby Lobby in Pensacola today and got some finer black necklace chain for my next project (1/350 Fletcher). It would also probably look good for 1/700 large ships too, was like $2.50 for a 16" strand. Of course they don't have the knuckle bars or whatever they're called but its still better than most options.

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Thanks for the input, Kyle. There's a Michael's near me (as well as a Hobby Lobby, but that chain can dive under a tractor) so maybe I'll hit them up for something really fine.

Yeah. OOB except anchor chains. Anchor chains instead of PE railings.

So much for consistency. :wave_1:
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Oh yeah, forgot about OOB.

Well, you could always cut up sprue into little links... :heh:

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seam

the work appears to be well :thumbs_up_1: good job on your superstructures :wink:
you go to put the aircraft fleet ?
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Thank you Nick, both for visiting the log and your kind comment. While 1/700 is not within my comfort zone, I'm finding that with this build I'm learning more about the fiddly stuff and how important it can be. Quite the learning experience. :) As for spotting the air wing, I have absolutely no idea. We'll have to see how painting them turns out.

Anyway, been working on more fixing and sanding (photos soon), and the hull will be ready for (hopefully its last) coat of primer.
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Some more images of the hull being filled and sanded. Apologies for the grainy photos, I've no idea why they came out like that.
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Port fantail, you can see where I'm trying to get a more even surface.
Port fantail, you can see where I'm trying to get a more even surface.
Port forecastle, ditto for the previous image. Though you can't really see it, the divots for both sides have been largely addressed. Another coat of primer will put that to the test.
Port forecastle, ditto for the previous image. Though you can't really see it, the divots for both sides have been largely addressed. Another coat of primer will put that to the test.
Top-down forward hull. The blobs of putty in the gun tubs are attempts to hide the sink marks.
Top-down forward hull. The blobs of putty in the gun tubs are attempts to hide the sink marks.
Top-down stern, again with blobs of filler. Given how this has progressed, this is a problem that really should've been addressed prior to assembly. :-p
Top-down stern, again with blobs of filler. Given how this has progressed, this is a problem that really should've been addressed prior to assembly. :-p
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Dang, she needs almost as much putty as a Trumpeter kit! Lookin good, especially filling in those dimples.

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I wouldn't go that far, Kyle.

I applied the second coat of primer to the hull after some more sanding and while it's not perfect, the results were pretty darn good. The divots are gone and the decks are nicely flush and there are no gaps in evidence. The flight deck was also given a shot of primer over and under, and there's nothing there that really needs attention. Unfortunately, I've discovered that the hull itself is warped! The photos will tell the tale...
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Flight deck topside, nothing to bang on about.
Flight deck topside, nothing to bang on about.
Ventral side, showing a bit of the detail. Cleaned up well.
Ventral side, showing a bit of the detail. Cleaned up well.
The port hull. In an attempt to try to work out the kinks...well, you get the idea.
The port hull. In an attempt to try to work out the kinks...well, you get the idea.
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