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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 1:04 pm 
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Mark McKinnis wrote:
Hi Alleycat,

Tracy is indeed the expert (He has a second sale on his book here as well) but I might be able to give some higher level tips.

Mark


Looked around the site for Tracy's book, but could find no reference to it. Is it available and if so, where/how can I get one. Been waiting.

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MM2CVS9 wrote:
Mark McKinnis wrote:
Hi Alleycat,

Tracy is indeed the expert (He has a second sale on his book here as well) but I might be able to give some higher level tips.

Mark


Looked around the site for Tracy's book, but could find no reference to it. Is it available and if so, where/how can I get one. Been waiting.

EJ



I believe that he is still writing it.


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Thanks Mark

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Adaks wrote:
Jeffcsr wrote:

Here's the mounts I mean:


These two 40mm quads were on Yorktown from September 1944 refit to 1947 ((?) All the same, to the end of WW2 for sure ).

CV-10 was 'in dazzle' in two different configurations:

1\May 1944-August 1944 - hangar cat, one flight deck cat, early island, 10 40mm quads.

2\September 1944-May 1945 (?) - no hangar cat, two flight deck cats, late island, 17 40mm quads total.

Radar fit was also different in these two periods.

If you built Yorktown in configuration from picture (2) you should also use only two first radio masts.


According to this post, I believe that the island bridge was extended to invlude an enlarged flag plot in the late 1944 refit.

Can I use the origina 1/350 Trumpeterl CV-9 Essex to make Yorktown?

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Roberto wrote:
According to this post, I believe that the island bridge was extended to invlude an enlarged flag plot in the late 1944 refit.


Yes, you are right.

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Can I use the origina 1/350 Trumpeterl CV-9 Essex to make Yorktown?


Yes, with little modifications. If you mean May 1944-August 1944 period of course (I suppose you want to build her in dazzle).


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Adaks wrote:
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Can I use the origina 1/350 Trumpeterl CV-9 Essex to make Yorktown?


Yes, with little modifications. If you mean May 1944-August 1944 period of course (I suppose you want to build her in dazzle).


Concur. Yorktown after the late 1944 refit was quite a bit different in AA fit, bridge, radars, flight deck cutouts, etc. The Trumpeter 1/350 USS Yorktown 1944 kit isn't correct for either before or after the late 1944 refit. But it makes a good starting point for a 1945 Yorktown with some relatively easy modifications.

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Apologies if you're already familiar with this, but I've just found the amazing full color hour long documenary film of an Essex class carrier (USS Yorktown) in 1943-1944, great viewing to see all round the carrier in operation in full color.

As well as a good modelling reference, This is an hour well spent getting intimate with an Essex class carrier at war.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5JbXRDOP60

also has a Wiki entry:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fighting_Lady


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Looking thru this thread and cannot find what I'm lookin' for... USS LEYTE (CVS-32) as I just found out a cousin of mine was aboard her in 1958-59 and was the Air Officer!(CAG??) CDR Howard Burton SHIVELY.
From what I have found is the LEYTE remained a straight deck CV and never had the major overhaul/refit like her sisters did. So, what kit in 1/700 would best be suited to build her up from? I have a Hasegawa ESSEX, Tamiya Hornet & I believe the Hasegawa Hancock. THanks.

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Hi Ed, Merry Christmas!


The DML Princeton kit will make into a Leyte pretty much out of the box. Dragon even gives you decals for her. She was an ASW Carrier so the S-2s and Helo's from the kit are also period accurate for you. Air Officer may refer to the Air Boss by todays name.

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Hey Ed, PM me an e-mail and I can send you a bunch of photos I've accrued of CV-32 if they'll help. She's the subject of one of my projects and I rummaged for awhile for photos so if will help you I'll gladly send them along :thumbs_up_1:

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Mark McKinnis wrote:
Hi Ed, Merry Christmas!


The DML Princeton kit will make into a Leyte pretty much out of the box. Dragon even gives you decals for her. She was an ASW Carrier so the S-2s and Helo's from the kit are also period accurate for you. Air Officer may refer to the Air Boss by todays name.

Good luck!

MM

Thanks Mark & Merry Christmas to you & yours! :thumbs_up_1: Thanks for the input on the DML Princeton kit. Wish I could afford one but,I can hardly pay attention right now as I'm that broke :Oops_1:

Ok, so, Air Officer may be the same as Air Boss. Ok, that sounds reasonable. I do know he was a Naval Aviator since 1941 at NAS Pensacola. His twin brother Herbert Charles SHIVELY went in at the same time & ended up flying Catalinas with VP-53!

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Cliffy B wrote:
Hey Ed, PM me an e-mail and I can send you a bunch of photos I've accrued of CV-32 if they'll help. She's the subject of one of my projects and I rummaged for awhile for photos so if will help you I'll gladly send them along :thumbs_up_1:


THanks Cliffy! PM inbound :thumbs_up_1:

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I'm hoping in all the vast knowledge that exists on this sight someone might have some info on this.
While collecting as much info for a 1/350 Bunker Hill build I have noticed something that baffles me .
This picture shows the island and it is definitely Bunker Hill because that is her scoreboard on bulkhead, also note aircraft to the rear. Also as noted on prior posts what looks to be a Mk 51 tub fwd of the bridge.
http://www.navsource.org/archives/02/021739.jpg
This second picture shows Bunker Hill w/ same and additional 40mm gun tubes to the Port aft would seem to indicate after Bremerton refit which upgraded her AA.
http://www.navsource.org/archives/02/021733.jpg
What baffles me is that the ship is clearly fitted with an SK2 radar…
However in one of the most iconic pictures of all of WWII at the time of the kamikaze attack she clearly has an SK radar???
http://www.navsource.org/archives/02/021701.jpg
All subsequent photos of Bunker hill, even after her rebuild from the attack show an SK and the absence of any Mk 51 tube.
From all that I have ever read about the Bunker Hill it has been stated that she never again operated with an Airwing following her rebuid; meaning the pictures with the SK2 radar had to be PRIOR to the May 11, 1945 attack. Can anybody explain this? I’m really curious.

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Rob-UK wrote:
Apologies if you're already familiar with this, but I've just found the amazing full color hour long documenary film of an Essex class carrier (USS Yorktown) in 1943-1944, great viewing to see all round the carrier in operation in full color.

As well as a good modelling reference, This is an hour well spent getting intimate with an Essex class carrier at war.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5JbXRDOP60

also has a Wiki entry:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fighting_Lady



The Fighting Lady is an absolut classic among the WWII documentaries...! :-)

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Hi all,
I have a question concerning whip antennae that replaced the original radio masts on some Essex-class carriers in late WW2 - like those on this photo of USS Bunker Hill off Okinawa seen in the foreground at http://goo.gl/hlqacO . What I cannot figure out of the picture is if these were collapsible like the original radio masts during flight operations? I consider this very likely (in which case the two objects below the antennae platform would perhaps be hydraulic supports responsible for moving them). Does anyone have a photo or other information showing this?


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Here is a photo of CV-14, showing her deck-edge antennae in the lowered position: http://www.navsource.org/archives/02/021497.jpg

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Thank you, Timmy!


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What modification would the Essex kit need to be made into Wasp in August 1945?

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What modification would the Essex kit need to be made into Wasp in August 1945?


Hi Task Force, are you talking the 1/350 Trumpeter Essex? If so that would be really tough; I would recommend the Yorktown or Franklin as a starting point. There are just so many things that would need to be changed/modified for 1945.

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Photos of Wasp on NAVSOURCE dated June 1945 show that she had both bow cats by then. That means using the Yorktown or Franklin since both kits have the two cats. That is one big difference from the Trumpy Essex. Check photos for the AA layout differences and I am sure there are some radar differences. I believe that Wasp had a starboard 40mm mounted at the main deck level aft that only a few Essex Class got in addition to the 3 mid ship under the island.

We will be looking for pics!

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