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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 3:01 pm 
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Attached a camo comparison of Java and De Ruyter; and the stern of Java showing DC racks, shielded Bofors, and point where stern sheared off. :wave_1:

EDIT: By the way, the sheared off stern section is the most physically destroyed 'wreck', or part thereof, I have ever dived, barely recognisable as what it once was; caused by not just the torp hit, but the detonation of the aft magazines, and many of the depth charges. A jumbled mess to say the least!


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:41 am 
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And another broadside of Java camo. And another of De Ruyter camo. And a photo of her namesake so to speak, the uncamouflaged earlier destroyer De Ruyter! :thumbs_up_1:


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:37 pm 
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I could recommend anybody building or planning to build a Dutch warship in general, and Java and De Ruyter in particular, to visit these pages on website of the Dutch "Nationaal Archief" (National Archives). I've posted this in the "Calling all RNN Tromp class fans" thread before, so you should replace "Tromp" for "Java" or "De Ruyter".... Drawings of Java (and Sumatra) can be found in section "3527-3565", drawings of "De Ruyter" can be found in section "3234-3283"....

have fun :)

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aloha,

it might have been mentioned in another thread, but if you're interested in (building) former dutch warships, you should visit this page:

http://www.gahetna.nl/collectie/archief/ead/index/eadid/4.MST/aantal/20/open/c01:0.#c01:0. this is a collection of scanned drawings of dutch warships, sailing ships and motor or steam vessels and the scans are available for download

don't be afraid of the dutch language, google translate works on this page

in case of hr.ms. tromp,

1 - go to section 1.2 (Stoom- en Motorschepen) = steam and motor ships/vessels

2 - go to section 1.2.21 (Kruisers) = cruisers

3 - go to section 1.2.21.3566-3631 for 66 sheets of design drawings of hr.ms. tromp, including linesplans, deckplans, profile, drawings of engineroom etc etc

click on the subsections for the drawings:

example: if you want to see the linesplan, (click on the link for a sample pic)

http://images.memorix.nl/naa/thumb/1280x1280/c1cf542c-122f-a769-ac4e-9ca3bbfe45c7.jpg

1 - click on drawing nr 3580 (Lijnenplan en spantenlijst) = linesplan and cross sections

2 - in the submenu, click on the tab "Alle Scans" = all scans or click on "Bekijk de scans" = view the scans

3 - you'll see the drawings is scanned in three parts, click on the thumbs to view a larger version

4 - now you can view the image and zoom in or out to view details. click on "download" scan for a jpg version. be patient, it might take some seconds before the image is loaded and ready for download

hope this will be usefull :cool_1: and have fun exploring the rest of the collection

fm


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