Calling all HMS Repulse & HMS Renown fans

[JH]

Thanks for all the advice, definitely a decent price and doesn't sound too bad on the modification front.

Regarding PE - are WEM still the way to go, or worth looking at Flyhawk etc?

/Jens

[73north]

I would say Flyhawk is the best etch set for Repulse , far more extensive and makes a huge difference to the basic kit ( more bang for your buck )

plus its well engineered and easier to use .

[RNfanDan]

I would say Flyhawk is the best etch set for Repulse , far more extensive and makes a huge difference to the basic kit ( more bang for your buck ) plus its well engineered and easier to use .

One small error in one of the major Repulse PE sets--I cannot recall which (?)-- is that that two, tall ladderways are provided for the port side of the lower bridge deck, immediately forward of the ship's forefunnel. This is "anatomically incorrect"-- there was only ONE ladderway between the lower bridge and flag/signal deck. Its proper orientation is slightly angled outward and inclined, fore-to-aft. I believe the instructions provided with the PE set specify both ladders to be installed at the rear edge of the lower bridge deck. It's a minor point, but worth mentioning.

Perhaps the extra ladder might be "repurposed" for a later modeling project?

FYI

[RNfanDan]

With chronic disorders and age continuing to impose on my health, I'd like to offer prospective HMS Repulse modelers the latest information on the ship's configuration and other details--some of which, have long remained unclear, unnoticed, or otherwise "un-somethinged" .

I've long hoped to gather these bits and bobs into some form of publication; unfortunately however, it seems that every time I felt I'd reached the "completion" of my decade-long efforts, some new detail or another would be unearthed or otherwise brought to my attention (a number of these details being made possible from others, and my sincere thanks to all --you
know whom you are!). With each late-hour advancement and discovery, I was compelled to make corrections and additions to my "conclusions", some of which I had already disseminated to others in the form of text, graphics, or photographs.

The flow of information has often been glacier-like during my lengthy research on my favorite RN battlecruiser. Much misinformation has been published in the many years since Repulse was lost on 10 December 1941; however, in most cases this could not be avoided--for many reasons. It is NOT my intent to disparage the many excellent technical and historical books, papers, drawings, and other media that have together comprised the knowledge base we enjoy, today. Time and technology have made it possible for the dissemination and exchange of information, photographs, and research opportunities such as never before--particularly with the advent of global networks.

Much of what has changed my ability to conduct research and communicate with my benefactors over the years, is due to the hard work done by others and their willingness to share their findings with me, via the internet. This very website is just one example of the means by which others can contribute to that knowledge base, and I cannot avoid praising the admins and moderators for keeping this forum available to us all. I've taken much more than I've given, certainly, and I hope to contribute even one-tenth as much in return. Perhaps then, my obsession with HMS Repulse will benefit modelers and other researchers who are, or might become, "fans" of this warship. I intend, with the approval of the admins and moderators of MW, to share what I have learned over the years. In doing so, I hope serious modelers will be able to create more accurate replicas and gain a better understanding of the ship.

I'm willing to work with anyone serious about making a better replica than what "the box" contains, to my best ability--but as well, I intend to keep privileged and confidential photographs, documents and certain other research I have acquired, preserved as requested (again, for you whom know who you are!).

Thanks for reading!

--Dan

[MartinJQuinn]

I intend, with the approval of the admins and moderators of MW, to share what I have learned over the years. In doing so, I hope serious modelers will be able to create more accurate replicas and gain a better understanding of the ship.

Thanks for sharing your knowledge and expertise, Dan. Please continue. I, for one, appreciate those who are so willing to share their knowledge with the rest of us. If I ever find the time to build either the Tamiya (700) or Trumpeter (350) kits I have of Repulse, I'll be sure to reach out.

[RNfanDan]

Thanks for sharing your knowledge and expertise, Dan. Please continue. I, for one, appreciate those who are so willing to share their knowledge with the rest of us. If I ever find the time to build either the Tamiya (700) or Trumpeter (350) kits I have of Repulse, I'll be sure to reach out.

Thank you for that, Martin!

As a "teaser", I would like to include some topics I hope will prove worthy of special interest and discussion. Here are two samples:

[*] The intended location of Repulse's two, "missing" Oerlikon mountings; and,

[*] A "new" detail item of possible interest to modelers, involving the starboard (King's staff) aft deck house.

--Dan

[KevinD]

Not sure if this image of HMS Repulse has been posted in this thread before but thought it of interest.

However, a question, what / who is Romola as original caption states; "HMS REPULSE ON CLYDE IN 1916 WITH EREBUS & ROMOLA". I can find pics (one at bottom), etc of HMS Erebus on-line, but not any mention of a Romola.

Second pic below (of HMS Glatton in drydock) showing extended torpedo bulge as on Erebus in full.

And re HMS Erebus; I was very interested to learn - from Wiki - that one of her 15" guns was supposedly mounted on HMS Vanguard, i.e. "She (i.e.Erebus) was scrapped in July 1946. It is believed that one of Erebus' 15-inch guns was used to equip Vanguard, the Royal Navy's last battleship".)

So any help with what / what was Romola?

TIA

[tjstoneman]

HMS ROMOLA (named after the heroine of a book by George Eliot) was an Admiralty "R" class destroyer. There is a photo at https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... a_1916.jpg

[Guest]

HMS ROMOLA (named after the heroine of a book by George Eliot) was an Admiralty "R" class destroyer. There is a photo at https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... a_1916.jpg

Thanks. Not sure what happened to me but did a couple of searches inc Wiki and got nothing! Odd.

So which one in pic is she, the DD fore or aft next to Repulse? I am 'assumig' aft from the caption with photo?

[RNfanDan]

According to my best information, Romola is the destroyer nearest Repulse's bow, with Rowena astern of her sister.

[KevinD]

According to my best information, Romola is the destroyer nearest Repulse's bow, with Rowena astern of her sister.

Thanks, Dan, makes sense after all. (Yes that was my post, not sure why I showed up as 'guest' as am supposed to be 'automatically' logged in, or so the box I ticked long ago states i would be.)

Anyway, re my question; having just made it back home - when I made my post - after a long flight and some hard work prior, I guess I am still not quite 'with it' yet. Not sure why I asked the stupid question that I did alluding to how the caption was written inferring Romola would be the aft DD, because of cause it makes sense that it is the nearest DD to the viewer, as after all Erebus is the big fell over to the right, not another DD. So pardon my dumb question, I guess I'll just go stand in the corner for a while!

[73north]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Metal-Badge- ... SwroZayG8l

This is a new item , I have never seen before , a nice Metal Badge for the Battle Cruiser HMS Repulse for 1/350 or 1/700 model display

perhaps of some interest ??

[KevinD]

Just thought I'd post this comparison photo of Renown (top, photo taken supposedly just pre-war) and Repulse taken (supposedly) in mid to late 30's. Enjoy.

[KevinD]

Hey, I hope I am not jumping the gun on another poster here, but for those that haven't been to his site suggest you do so ASAP! http://ontheslipway.com/

Exceptionally clear (naval) photos! Great work EJ!!!

I lifted and cropped two from there that I believe is Repulse (?) taken in 1932 off Hood. Is it Repulse, and I wonder where?

Hope you don't mind me posting here EJ, if so I apologise, (and that I am not infringing on any copyright)?

EDIT: Forgot to insert link to his site (even though I already had it 'copied' and ready to paste in)!

[EJFoeth]

Exceptionally clear (naval) photos! Great work EJ!!!

Thanks!

Hope you don't mind me posting here EJ, if so I apologise, (and that I am not infringing on any copyright)?

I've realized that once you put up an image it may end up anywhere. I learned that when I uploaded this image without a link to my website and now it is everywhere; you can even buy it at the image thievery and extortion website Alamy. May a power cable unplug and burn down their buildings. Some people edit out the URLt which is really loathsome but what can you do... /endrant

So as long as the URL is still visible I'm fine; the point was getting them out in the open. Plus, some are from Wright & Logan Photographic Collection (some say so on the back) and I do not know the copyright situation.

[RNfanDan]

I lifted and cropped two [images] ... that I believe is Repulse (?) taken in 1932 off Hood. Is it Repulse, and I wonder where?

Kevin, that is HMS Renown. Her upper bulge is clearly visible above the waterline. Repulse did not share this "tell".

[KevinD]

I lifted and cropped two [images] ... that I believe is Repulse (?) taken in 1932 off Hood. Is it Repulse, and I wonder where?

Kevin, that is HMS Renown. Her upper bulge is clearly visible above the waterline. Repulse did not share this "tell".

Thanks Dan, but I couldn't make out the lower set of Renown's scuttles, which I thought was the differentiating point. Didn't realise at that time (1932) that Repulse did not have that 'bulge'. Thanks for correcting me!

[Guest]

Just found this B&W film and have never seen it before - dated 1920. I have seen the color one but this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaR1deHUAms

[moy350]

hi guys does anyone know the colour used on her bow metal deck,and her other decks that are not wood covered.i have some WEM enamel colourcoats i purchased long ago but none say 'deck grey' or suchlike.would appreciate any advice.i am building the 1/350 trumpy kit in the scheme she wore when lost.would gladly use acrylic equivalents if available.thanks,john.

[Vlad]

Should be AP507A Dark Grey.

Unsure of Acrylic equivalents and what brands are available near you, but we're talking about decks, that get worn and faded quite a bit, so an approximate match would do. It's a dark grey with a slight blue tint. Since aircraft colours are likely to be easier to find, if you're looking for an alternative, something in the "RAF Extra Dark Sea Grey" ballpark would do in my opinion. Xtracrylix have it as XA1005, or you could go Humbrol 123 if stores near you stock it.