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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 10:42 pm 
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Not currently on Missouri and looking at my photos I don't see any items that look like mounts remaining. Interesting items and wonder if they made it aboard any of the ships and for how long. Another curiosity is the binnacle at this location. Some sort of emergency alternate conning station? No wheel, no engine order telegraph.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:23 am 
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Fliger747 wrote:
Not currently on Missouri and looking at my photos I don't see any items that look like mounts remaining. Interesting items and wonder if they made it aboard any of the ships and for how long. Another curiosity is the binnacle at this location. Some sort of emergency alternate conning station? No wheel, no engine order telegraph.


That's on the open bridge wings, that's where you conn during an UNREP.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:12 am 
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The position I am referring to is immediately aft of the forward stack, not on the bridge wings.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:30 am 
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Ok, sorry. The one after the stack is the master compass, the others are repeaters.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:23 am 
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As good a place as one could find given the huge steel objects populating a Battleship.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:36 pm 
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Fliger747 wrote:
Another curiosity is the binnacle at this location. Some sort of emergency alternate conning station? No wheel, no engine order telegraph.


It's the most remote, accessible location they could find. There is a 12' zone (sphere) around the binnacle where everything is non-magnetic material. There is 15' zone where anything moveable has to be non-magnetic. That's why you see a lot of brass around there.

As others have said, this is the master and it transmits to several locations throughout the ship.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:06 pm 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:35 pm 
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As good a place as one could find given the huge steel objects populating a Battleship.



The master compass is located where magnetic influences of different parts of the ship most nearly cancel eachother out.

The two big port and starboard iron balls on either side of the binnacle are on adjustable mounts and their precise locations are adjusted to as close as possible cancel out the residual magnetic influence of the ship.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:05 pm 
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I found an interesting blueprint today. It showed all the 20mm and 40mm guns on the Iowa class replaced by 3/50 mounts.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:15 pm 
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What was the date on that? Must have got lost in the "roundtuit" bin.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 9:29 pm 
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What was the date on that? Must have got lost in the "roundtuit" bin.


I was so busy sorting plans that I did not check. However, the paper looked like 1950's.


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That makes sense as that was the period that the 3"50 twins were supposed to supplant the 40mm quads. Missouri, still in the reserve fleet in the early 70's still had her quads under the aluminum domes.


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Fliger747 wrote:
What was the date on that? Must have got lost in the "roundtuit" bin.


1951. I have not unfolded yet but it looks like all the 40mm tubs would have had 3" guns. When I get it scanned, I can see if any got omitted.


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I posted a message about the 'planned" (never never done) installation of 3-in RFG twin mounts on the IOWA class, earlier and I can't find it to reference. In 1951, the USN planned on replacing ALL quad 40-mm mounts with twin 3-in RFG mounts. But, because of the greater weight of the new mounts, it was "generally" done on a basis of two 3-in RFG mounts for every three 40-mm quad mounts. I don't know what the plan was in 1951 for the IOWA class, but in late-1950s Armament Summaries, the total "ultimate" number of twin 3-in RFG mounts was to be fourteen (although I think USS IOWA would have had only thirteen twin 3-in mounts). Interesting enough, the SOUTH DAKOTA class was to get ten twin 3-in RFG gun mounts.

USS IOWA and USS WISCONSIN were the only two members of the class to get close to having the twin 3-in RFG mounts installed. USS IOWA had the complete fire control upgrades for the twin 3-in RFG mounts installed and quad 40-mm mounts reduced to thirteen. USS WISCONSIN only had the quad 40-mm mount numbers reduced to the sixteen number (which corresponded to the fourteen number of twin 3-in RFG mounts plus the two quad 40-mm mounts replaced by GFCS directors like USS IOWA had.

By 1955 the USN had realized that the 3-in AA armament was entirely inadequate defense against jet aircraft, particularly with stand-off weapons.

So I would be interested in knowing what was planned in 1951 for the USS IOWA class.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:28 pm 
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So I would be interested in knowing what was planned in 1951 for the USS IOWA class.


You'll have to sweat in anticipation for a a couple of weeks. The plans are at the blueprint shop and I am going on vacation before I can pick them up. :-)


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:34 pm 
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At my age, I'll completely forget about it two weeks. :big_grin:


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Hello to all the modelers from all the world !

I want to built 1/700 USS New Jersey BB 62 in his last modern config. (excately in 1984 after lebanon crisis).

What is the best kit for this project ? TAMIYA or TRUMPETER ?
And that are the best "add on sets" (PE, resin, wooden deck, ...etc....) ?

Thanks for your answers.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:41 pm 
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bilou06 wrote:
Hello to all the modelers from all the world !

I want to built 1/700 USS New Jersey BB 62 in his last modern config. (excately in 1984 after lebanon crisis).

What is the best kit for this project ? TAMIYA or TRUMPETER ?


Full hull or waterline?


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:46 pm 
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Waterline. And for an extra détailled model.

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