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Thanks, Dan. I really appreciate your help!

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:27 pm 
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The Ishibashi book indicates that both ships did have this director arrangement. And then I found this:


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You’re a lifesaver, Dan. Thank you!

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What i find really facinating about the Nagato class is the main Rangefinder ontop of the superstructure. Normal Rangefinders are some kind of "Turret" that turns around its axis but on Nagato its actually on a rail that moves around the superstructure. Does anyone have any info why the Nagato class had this rather unique RF configuration compared to the other IJN BB's?


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Hello friends. I need advice from you :smallsmile:
Does anybody build Nagato "The Battle of the Leyte Gulf" Hasegawa 1/350? Are there some big issues with using Pontos 35029F1 IJN NAGATO 1941 Detail Up Set? Mainly asking about the wooden deck, because other things are usually easier to modify. Thanks a lot!


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Boro wrote:
Hello friends. I need advice from you :smallsmile:
Does anybody build Nagato "The Battle of the Leyte Gulf" Hasegawa 1/350? Are there some big issues with using Pontos 35029F1 IJN NAGATO 1941 Detail Up Set? Mainly asking about the wooden deck, because other things are usually easier to modify. Thanks a lot!


Gday. I’m not an expert on this class however I have built, and am building a second 1/350 Nagato. First one was built using all of Hasegawas etch. The second is being built with the Pontos set. What I e noticed is that the Pontos set makes quite a few changes to the kits superstructure, especially aft of the main superstructure. You can see this on their site. I think that much of the Nagato kit is based on Mutsu and Pontos have mad changes to address this.

In any case, once the horrid lines are removed from the lower hull, the kit is excellent. The Pontos set is brilliant. One of their best.

In regards to your direct question. There won’t be any problems with using the Pontos set on the Leyte version. Just be aware of changes in regards to deck placement of guns etc.


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Re. Hasegawa 1/350 Nagato, there are two kits:
40024 Z24 IJN Battleship Nagato 1941
40073 IJN Battleship Nagato "THE BATTLE OF THE LEYTE GULF"

Nagato "THE BATTLE OF THE LEYTE GULF" costs more, the price difference is about 20-25%.

What are the difference(s) between those two kit versions?


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Leyte has a much more beautiful box art.

But seriously: as you can see on Hobby Search, the base kit 40024 is Nagato in 1941, while the 40073 Leyte version is, of course, 1944. That means more AA guns, radars, etc.

1941: https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10062628
1944: https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10088435

There are photos there of the completed model as well as some of the instructions and sprues so you can compare. The quickest way to see what differs is to compare the sprue diagram at the end of the instructions and see what's shaded (not used), and what sprues are new (e.g. sprue U for 1944).

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Thanks for very helpful links, that's all I needed.

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Leyte has a much more beautiful box art.

But seriously: as you can see on Hobby Search, the base kit 40024 is Nagato in 1941, while the 40073 Leyte version is, of course, 1944. That means more AA guns, radars, etc.

1941: https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10062628
1944: https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10088435

There are photos there of the completed model as well as some of the instructions and sprues so you can compare. The quickest way to see what differs is to compare the sprue diagram at the end of the instructions and see what's shaded (not used), and what sprues are new (e.g. sprue U for 1944).


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Couldn't find a post (sorry if asked many times), but on 1/700 Nagato/Mutsu - who offers the most accurate kit to date without big stupid issues like wrong hull shapes or dimensions and so on, and has good level of detalisation without needing an enormous PE set?

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pascalemod wrote:
Couldn't find a post (sorry if asked many times), but on 1/700 Nagato/Mutsu - who offers the most accurate kit to date without big stupid issues like wrong hull shapes or dimensions and so on, and has good level of detalisation without needing an enormous PE set?


For 1/700, I think the recent Nagato offerings from both Fujimi and Aoshima are both good choices. If building strictly OOB, I prefer the Fujimi kit slightly (Aoshima uses a two-piece main deck that leaves a seam across the planks, though it is small and could be hidden). Note that only Aoshima offers Nagato in her 1927 configuration with two funnels.

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gscott wrote:
pascalemod wrote:
Couldn't find a post (sorry if asked many times), but on 1/700 Nagato/Mutsu - who offers the most accurate kit to date without big stupid issues like wrong hull shapes or dimensions and so on, and has good level of detalisation without needing an enormous PE set?


For 1/700, I think the recent Nagato offerings from both Fujimi and Aoshima are both good choices. If building strictly OOB, I prefer the Fujimi kit slightly (Aoshima uses a two-piece main deck that leaves a seam across the planks, though it is small and could be hidden). Note that only Aoshima offers Nagato in her 1927 configuration with two funnels.


I meant full hull though - is Ayoshima full hull too? The two funnel Nagato is a funky ship. I cannot make up my mind if I love it or hate it. the bow looks awesome, the truncated funnel is beyond ugly. :D

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Just verified that Aoshima does offer one Nagato as a full hull kit in 1/700 scale: it is the 1945 version. This model has no option to build as a waterline ship as the complete hull is separated into left and right halves. Interestingly, since the molding of the hull differs from their other Nagato offerings, the 1945 version has a one piece deck with no joint seams across planking.

Reference: https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10127417

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Hello, I recently picked up an Otaki 1:400 Nagato and a Mutsu, same. The Nagato is missing the instructions, but Mutsu has hers. Are these kits identical, or are they different enough to warrant me searching for a set of instructions for the Nagato?


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Hello, I recently picked up an Otaki 1:400 Nagato and a Mutsu, same. The Nagato is missing the instructions, but Mutsu has hers. Are these kits identical, or are they different enough to warrant me searching for a set of instructions for the Nagato?

They are from the last century, of course they ARE identical(sadly).


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This model has no option to build as a waterline ship as the complete hull is separated into left and right halves.
Reference: https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10127417

All the Aoshima full hull releases are in this trend(two halves hull).


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Wouldn't the rangefinders have been added at or around that time? If they need to be deleted from the build, that's fine. If not, is the shape present in the Aoshima kit correct? The TROM isn't clear.

I've found evidence of the searchlight platforms present on NAGATO, but the photo of MUTSU with her twin funnel configuration and midships (127mm?) rangefinders present seems to be the only time I see all these features in one place.

There IS no as far as I know a picture of IJN Nagato in this configuration. Only far afar picture with crude details. But Aoshima(surprisingly) is correct in the "solid" rangefinder base and searchlight platform for the IJN Nagato both 1927 and 1933 version.


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Hello!

I'm new to this forum but some of you might seen my drawings searching on the Internet and other naval related sites and forums.

Regarding Nagato, I've recently finished my drawing of her late 1944/early 1945 look before her disarmament and reduction of funnel and mainmast.
I wish to ask if you guys find any inaccuracies on my drawing especially regarding the positions of the AA guns as these were quite difficult to accurately pinpoint! I've used all the photos I could gather as well as other drawings and model.
Here is the Drawing:
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Nice work.

The Ishibashi BB book is the most notable and reliable reference book out there, short of photography. He is a noted and highly regarded IJN expert.

His graphic for Nagato dated April, 1945 differs a little in the number of triple 25MM AA mounts.

He shows only one mount per side on the boat deck, but also shows four mounts, two per side, each at a different level, mounted on the platforms under the mainmast.

He also shows only four mounts, not six, on the platform ahead of the funnel/searchlights and back of the bridge.

He also does not show a triple mount on the main deck to either side of #2 turret .

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