dafi wrote:
Have a look here for the color discussion
viewtopic.php?f=59&t=99050&p=908986#p908919XXXDAn
Thanks Dan! I'm following with great interest!
Daniele wrote:
Hilarious that few days ago’ , while browsing this thread Again , I was thinking ..”Marijin should start his own publishing company “ .
Something like Micheal Rinaldi and his tank art series and SM ( single model one ) .
Just a thought ..no pressure
I know it than became a job and not a relaxing hobby
Daniele
Thanks Daniele, I'll take that as a compliment! I'm a big fan of Michael's work and publications, and I feel lucky to be able to call him a friend.
But for myself, I prefer to focus on the fun stuff indeed: actual modelling, and then writing a little about it. I'll leave the busyness side of things to people who actually know something about that!
Bouncy70 wrote:
Impressive work! But - a word of warning here, you may already know this, but: The quarter-galleries on either side of the stern were simple appendages to the hull proper. You have removed the hull sides from inside the galleries, giving a very picturesque see-through effect, but you will need to reinstall the hull sides inside the galleries.
Many thanks! This is exactly the kind of feedback I need!
In this case, I luckily did think about it early on. But it is of course not visible on the pics of the 'empty' hull, and you would have to dig back in this thread a lot to see my solution.
The decks are removable for painting, and for ease of access I glued the hull sections behind the quarter galleries to the decks instead of to the hull:
Glazing the windows will normally reduce visibility inside, but I agree completely that something should be inside...
Bouncy70 wrote:
It was quite common for many (most!) of the windows in the quarter galleries to be dummies, this also goes for the outermost window or two windows in each level on the stern itself. The quarter gallery was a toilet and one wouldn't want to be too exposed when doing business there
Victory does have real windows in all the relevant places (at least as she is today) but this was not typical. Redoutable would in all probability be more closed up, only having the center window or part of the center window on each level of the quarter gallery actually glazed.
Yes, that is very true! For Victory, I left them all as 'real' windows like she is today, by lack of better information. Maybe she had curtains?
But for Redoutable, I followed Boudriot's 'the 74 gun ship' to the letter on the location of mock windows:
On the upper gundeck level of the quarter galleries, even only the upper half of the central window was real, the rest was mock!
And the stern windows n°2 and 9 actaully but against the hull side walls, so they even couldn't work as a window at all.
But I am still looking for information about what these mock windows actually looked like. What colour were they painted? Black? Where they glazed? etc...
Boudriot doesn't write about this, his drawings don't really show it, and the 'traditional' wooden models don't give reliable info either...
Maybe you know?
wefalck wrote:
Re. the paint scheme: there has been a very interesting article on the topic in Mariner's Mirror recently:
VALE, B. (2020): Pitch, Paint, Varnish and the Changing Colour Schemes of Royal Navy Warship, 1775-1815: A Summary of Existing Knowlege.- The Mariner’s Mirror, 106(1): 30-42.
It was brought to my attention when I was researching the paint that was used to restore HMS GANNET in Chatham. The upshot is that the pinkish buff that was found on HMS VICTORY seems to have been the result of economy on the side of the Admiralty. They were slowly phasing out the red for interior painting, but not sufficient ochre was supplied to the ships to renew the paint every six months as expected. Therefore, the ochre was stretched with red surplus pigment that was still available in the ships' dotation.
Many thanks Wefalck! It is very useful indeed to get insights in the 'why' behind things like this...
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very cool! Thanks for the clarification. Ill also aim for buff-dark grey, probably in 1/700 it will be quite impressive next to Hood or smth.
But afterall it was in 2018.