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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 12:04 pm 
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Okay, let's try this again.

I've always been facinated by the British-built foreign warships, especially Agincourt and Erin. I've never built the Combrig kit, as I feel I couldn't do her justice because I've never built resin before. If anyone is building the kit and would like to post here, tha's fine. Just try to stay on topic, not go on about the model

Here are some links for the Erin:

http://www.worldwar1.co.uk/battleship/hms-erin.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Erin

http://www.battleships-cruisers.co.uk/hms_erin.htm


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Avery Boyer wrote:
Okay, let's try this again.

I've always been facinated by the British-built foreign warships, especially Agincourt and Erin.


You forgot HMS Canada! :)

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I've never built the Combrig kit, as I feel I couldn't do her justice because I've never built resin before. If anyone is building the kit and would like to post here, tha's fine. Just try to stay on topic, not go on about the model

Here are some links for the Erin:

http://www.worldwar1.co.uk/battleship/hms-erin.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Erin

http://www.battleships-cruisers.co.uk/hms_erin.htm


Avery,

Combrig makes some great kits. I just picked up the Erin, and have the Agincourt as well. They are reasonably priced from outlets like Pacific Front Hobbies. Take the plunge, you won't regret it!!

IIRC, Erin was considered to be better design, albiet a little more cramped, than Iron Duke.

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HMS Erin was very similar in main aramament layout to the Iron Duke class, wasn't she? Not quite as elegant, but nevertheless a good design.

As for building the kit, I'll build the Combrig USS Porter first, and then go for something larger.

Some more links:

http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/sh-fornv/uk/uksh-e/erin14.htm

http://www.canakkale.gen.tr/eng/closer/closer5.html(Also includes Agincourt.)

http://www.warship.get.net.pl/WBrytania/Battleships/1914_Erin_class/_Erin_photos.html

http://www.warship.get.net.pl/WBrytania/Battleships/1914_Erin_class/_Erin_class.html

https://www.lostbattalion.com/t-bb_Erin.aspx

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Avery, you probably know about these pictures but just in case...

http://david-j-ross.fotopic.net/c396237.html

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David,

Yes, I have seen your photos but couldn't find the link. Thanks for posting.

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Hi Avery and the Erin fan-club

Here is the link to the photos I took of the 1/700 model that Rob Kernaghan built using the Combrig kit..

http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... index.html

Hope it helps

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Ooh nice. I blew $113 this afternoon on a Combrig Erin and a few DDs.(My first resin kits :woo_hoo: :cool_1: )

MartinJQuinn, I sent you a PM, not sure if it got through.

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Hi Avery,

I have built a fair number of resin RN battleships (including 10 from Combrig), including Erin.

Email me if I can help with any questions you may have

rob_kernaghan@hotmail.com

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Rob,

Thanks. I might contact you if I have any questions about construction. My order should be arriving any day.......... :woo_hoo: :cool_1:

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Avery Boyer wrote:
Rob,

Thanks. I might contact you if I have any questions about construction. My order should be arriving any day.......... :woo_hoo: :cool_1:


Feel free, I'd be pleased to help if I can.

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Order came today! :woo_hoo: :woo_hoo:

As if we needed another opinion, The combrig kit Is every bit as nice as i could hope, crisp, clean and well detailed. Can't wait to get started!

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Okay, I'm still working on my Erin, but she's nearing (slowly) completion. The build has been great so far, the only fiddly part being the tripod mast assembly. I might buy some rails for her soon, anyone know which to get? I painted her in camouflage gray and dark tan (slightly lightened) with neutral gray steel decks. The camouflage gray is a little bit to light, but should look fine with weathering. I'm not going to rig her, the mast being to fragile to withstand the pressure. Maybe if I used stretched sprue though... Any suggestions? The flag will come from a skywave decal sheet. I'll post pics as soon as I can.

Rob, sent you an e-mail, not sure if it got through.

I have a question on Erin's main deck (Also put this to Rob in my e-mail). On the forward section, Combrig has omitted planking detail. Is this correct? If so, what color should I paint it?

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Avery Boyer wrote:
I have a question on Erin's main deck (Also put this to Rob in my e-mail). On the forward section, Combrig has omitted planking detail. Is this correct? If so, what color should I paint it?

TIA


I'll try and pop into the Dock Museum tomorrow and check this area on the builder's model.

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Just checked my photos and there is no plank detail in them when I adjusted the brightness. I will still call in and have a look though.

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The pics you posted the links to show this area painted the same as the deck. No planking there.

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Hi Avery,

No, I didn't get your email.

The way it is printed on screen, not surprised. What I suspect you miss is an underscore between my first name and surname.

Try that again? rob_kernaghan@hotmail.com

To answer your questions:

etch: - best bet is WEM's Tiger fret - take your time railing the deck edges over the casemates, they are a bit fiddly.

Deck - where the deck is flat it should be AP507A, vertical colours should be AP507C.

I would replace the masts with brass rod (I do this on all my ships anyway).

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:31 pm 
What color were the decks on Agincourt's superstructure? Dark Grey or Corticene?


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Anyone know of any good photos or plans of the Agincourt's foward superstructure? From plans and photos, it looks like there is a long inclined ladder going up to the first platform of the bridge, and I'm trying to figure out where add it on the Combrig 1/700 kit (which doesn't come with it). I've got Burt's book, but it really doesn't give a good view of the area. I've also tried places like Maritime Quest, NHC, etc.

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Guest wrote:
What color were the decks on Agincourt's superstructure? Dark Grey or Corticene?


In WW 1 RN ships always seem to have corticene decks for the superstructure decks. The rest of the steel decks should be in dark grey with some exceptions!

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Hi Martin,

From looking at pictures and plans I think you might need to make an opening on the first platform in order to accomodate the ladder. I would align the opening with the relative position found on the plans you have. I hope it helps you out a bit. Pictures of the aft side of the superstructures is always hard to come by no matter what ships we are building :heh: I've had similar troubles with Repulse and I still haven't found exactly the picture I would like. The darn funnel always gets in the way !

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Hi,

I downloaded these from the Dreadnaught site a number of years ago. They have since vanished
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