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Looks like she still had the tennis (squash?) court starboard of #1 turret.

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Found this interesting show on YouTube last night by accident. Lot's of interesting views of the New Jersey when she was coming out of mothballs in the late 60's.
The American Dreadnaught (1968)
Matt

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Matt,
Thanks for sharing - this is a great video for those interested in the modifications made to BB-62 in 1967. I served in her from Sept. 68 - Dec. 69 and built a 1:200 scale model of her over a 6 year period (the build log & photos are on SMF) and used this video for reference.

Hank

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Builder's yard:
USS STODDARD (DD-566) 66-68 1:144
USS PENNSYLVANIA (BB-38) Late '40 1:200
Finished:
USS NEW JERSEY (BB-62) 67-69 1:200
USN Sloop/Ship PEACOCK (1813) 1:48
ROYAL CAROLINE (1748) 1:47
AVS (1768) 1:48

Some decent film of Iowa and Wisconsin in mothballs too.

From the photos I can find, when the Iowa was in Measure 32, the front face of the forward turret was black but were the barrels black as well? They certainly look darker than the barrels of the other turrets but I can't decide if they were black or not?

Thanks

John

In the beginning they where dull black along with the hull, later the hull got painted to dark blue and the barrels remained black.
The barrels of turrets 1 and 3 where completely painted while the barrels of turret 2 where painted on only the port side
Turrets 1 and 3 had their faces painted while turret 2 remained grey.

Here is a WWII history of her that I put together showing with photos and time frames.
viewtopic.php?f=74&t=158893
There are several color photos of her along with a color video for reference.

Hope this help with your build.

James

Thanks James, much appreciated.

John

A follow up question, this time on the turret tops. The Trumpeter instructions would have you paint the turret tops black, some of the photos of the Iowa I've seen would suggest that the turret tops were a darker colour but not necessarily black, possibly the same dark blue that the decks were stained?

If I'm going for Measure 32 in black, would the turret tops also have been black?

John

The turret top would be deck blue.
All horizontal surfaces would have been painted deck blue.

What color scheme are you going to paint her in? The dark blue scheme or the dull black scheme?

James

Thanks again James, I'm going for dull black.

I am looking for measured drawings of the SPS-49 antenna.

The Floating drydock has a couple pamphlets on the SPS 49

https://new.floatingdrydock.com/product ... r-pamplets

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THanks. I ordered them. Hopefully, they will have the info.

Corrected 1/200 Iowa hull?

Anyone have one available? Was originally considering doing the corrections myself, but, wow. Doing it old school would have been my only solution, and wasn't looking forward to all the really heavy slicing and dicing needed.

I have a question about the number 2 turret on the Iowa and, in particular the 'jibs' on the turret roof that, I believe, were to assist with the loading of the 16" shells.

The Trumpeter kit does include them and there is a photo on page 90 of Sumrall's book that clearly shows the jib on the starboard side of the turret in July 1943 at the New York Navy Yard. However, a photo on page 109 taken on 27 December 1944 at Ulithi shows no such jib on the starboard side (or the port side for that matter). Were they demountable and only fitted in place when needed?

John

Those "jibs" you are talking about are stationary I-beams welded to the top of the turrets for just such ammunition/powder canister stowage, etc. They were located at specific points on each turret so that the turret could be trained around to where the end of the beam was directly above the ammo scuttle in the deck. They are equipped with a block for rigging during ammo loading/stowing evolutions.

Here is a picture of Turret 3 on my NEW JERSEY model:

This shows both the scuttle in the deck and the I-beam on the turret top.

Hope this helps,

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Mocksville, NC
BB62 vet 68-69

Builder's yard:
USS STODDARD (DD-566) 66-68 1:144
USS PENNSYLVANIA (BB-38) Late '40 1:200
Finished:
USS NEW JERSEY (BB-62) 67-69 1:200
USN Sloop/Ship PEACOCK (1813) 1:48
ROYAL CAROLINE (1748) 1:47
AVS (1768) 1:48

That confirms what I believed they were for but if they were welded to the turret roof, how are they missing from the later photo, were they removed prior to December 1944?

They are bolted to the turret roof
I have seen them installed, removed and even installed pointed inward for storage.

I can send you photos of Iowa turret top if it help you.
They would show how the are attached

James

The loading booms look like they are in odd places and angles but they align with the strike down hatches.
The strike down hatches go all the way down to the Third Platform deck and is how the Iowa's reload ammunition and powder.
Typically, they would drop shells down one and powder down the other.
http://www.navsource.org/archives/01/016241.jpg

Here is a picture of Turret One almost in alignment with the strike down hatches.
You can see them just behind the turret, teardrop shaped
http://navsource.org/archives/01/062/016211.jpg

James

Thanks again James.

John