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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2021 5:41 pm 
Hello all hands
i came up on this thread seeking info on painting the decks of the Northampton (2400 scale) and found a treasure trove of into. Thanks to all for the wonderful resources, i see that i will need to do some wood decks and some compsiite ones like the hangar deck and the upper gun deck, working with what photos i can find and info.

I am wondering if you all know of a remarkable book i found by a sailor named Fitch who wrote his story as a young enlistee into the Navy pre war and his experiences as a crewman aboard the Northampton until she was sunk and his life afterwards in various duty stations and ships. It is a remarkable book and just wanted to post the info on it if anyone didnt know of it and was interested. He was for a while Adm. Spruance's Talker among other remarkable experiences he had and he was aboard for the memorable visit to Australia his ship made, as well as being aboard at the time of Pearl Harbor, and all of the other significant engagements until the sinking of the Northampton.

thanks again for the wonderful resources here. I look forward to more study I am working on some historical research on the IJN and USN in WWII using both hands on research and 350 scale and 2400 scale ship modelling for deeper engagement. thanks again.

Chris

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Growing up in the Pacific Fleet 1941-1946
A Memoir by James W. Fitch FC 1/c USN
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:54 am 
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Chris, the decks would have been painted Deck Blue 20-B. I believe it was a match to the Navy Blue 5-N paint that was used on the verticals surfaces. HTA, Jon


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:12 pm 
thank you Jon

i tried wood decks and it just didnt feel right. I will go with your info much appreciated. It just bugged me and I want to get this right and keep it accurate. I am working on various classes of ships of both USN and IJN, and have had excellent help from a pro here for IJN and for some of USN..but the USN went thru so many changes during the war and I have come to learn individual Captains and individual yards may have impacted the paint schemes of ships as well.

Also the non skid matting that was introduced that was a darkish brown color added another level of complexity. Not sure if all classes of ships used it. Will keep digging in the LIFE archive and other original sources as much as possible. thanks again. The Northampton is the first CA I have worked on and wanted to get her right.

thanks.

Chris


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 3:04 pm 
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Hello Chris, do you mean the non-skid matting that can be seen on the hangar roof of Northampton here? Are you sure it was darkish brown? I always thought it was dark gray (rubber).
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BTW this photo is coming from the LIFE archive that was at one point of time available on FB but it then disappeared. I would be glad if you could share where could it be found now, it was a great resource!

This is how I depicted this matting on my USS Chicago. I used decals printed on a laser printer, so there was no way how to make them appearing dark gray (very few laser printers print white colour), that´s why they are just black.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 10:54 pm 
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In the 1970s the US Navy used stick-on nonskid patches like what you see in the Northampton photos. They came in rolls. You just peeled them off the backing and pressed them down wherever you wanted them. They had a black grit, but you could paint over them.

I don't know if they were the same exactly as used in WWII but they looked the same.

We also mixed sand with paint to create continuous non-skid areas.

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The non-skid used in WWII no matter what they looked like new, did seem to start looking almost brownish after the paint was worn off and got dirty from oil, grease, and all kinds of other tracked on grime. But, depending on the ship's CO and the Chief's responsible, there would have been an effort to keep the decks primed and painted. But, ships were not allowed to keep a lot of paint onboard, so rusty areas could have been primed and waited for an opportunity to get paint at an advance base or from a tender.


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Hi guys, thanks for the explanation about the colour of the non-skid matting. It makes sense it got dirty and rusty over time, I´ll improve on that next time :)

Thanks also for the links to the LIFE photo collections, in fact I´ve seen those in the past, unfortunately they are still the same - impossible to search by any meaningful tags, ship or unit names etc.etc. It´s a pity they have not opened it for some kind of "social tagging" as I´m sure there would be many people voluntarily adding useful search terms to those invaluable photos.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 10:47 pm 
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From the Life.com site, photograph collection, google arts and culture section, type in Pacific Fleet and there are about a hundred excellent photos from Fleet Problem XXI of 1940 by Carl Mydans.


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