New Russian Aircraft Carrier Proposal Revealed

[ADebroux]

Since the Shtorm (Project 23000E) had a snowball's chance in hell of ever being built, it appears the Russians have scaled back their carrier ambitions to something a bit more reasonable and realistic. The new proposal was recently revealed by the Krylov Research Center here: http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... esign.html

[DougC]

The deck elevators would limit future aircraft development.

[Admiral John Byng]

I agree. Based on that model, it looks like a bigger carrier than 40,000 tonnes.

[InchHigh]

The displacement doesn't match the hull size, and the powerplant doesn't match either. 40,000 tons with 110,000 HP for 28 knots? That's about the same plant as a Burke class DDG. Something's wrong with the numbers here.

[DougC]

Looks like a great deal of mis-information. Much like the Myoko being a "10,000" ton cruiser.

[PetrOs]

Well, powerplant sounds realistic in fact, North Carolina BB had 28knots on same displacement but on a much shorter hull at 121 000 hp. Length is speed so 110000 hp on a long hull for 28knots sounds realistic.

It looks a bit too long for the displacement, but I think technically possible. Petr Velikiy is about 50 meter shorter at about 25000 tons, but it has a much higher armament weight, and in a carrier, more of the displacement can go into the hull.

Admiral Kuznetsov class is actually similar in length but bulkier due to heavy AS armement high up resulting in larger weight, width and draft, also causing a more powerful conventional steam plant installation which is heavier then gas turbines.

Not quite a light carrier however, quite comparable to the new chinese ones. Quite interesting also, which early warning planes are planned. Definitely not A50s

[Roberto]

Also the air wing is not what to expect, the new MiG-29k is going to I completely replace the Flankers.

[Haijun watcher]

From last July: another design...

UK Defence Journal

Russia unveils yet another new aircraft carrier design
By
George Allison
July 12, 2019
Russia has yet again unveiled a new aircraft carrier design.
At an annual Russian defence exhibition, the Krylov State Scientific Center unveiled concept for a new aircraft carrier.
Russia appears to do this every year and as most of you will be aware, the designs never progress further either due to a lack of will or resources on the part of the Russian military.
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[chuck]

Looks like a great deal of mis-information. Much like the Myoko being a "10,000" ton cruiser.

The incentive to understate the displacement is not there. If anything, the Russians would overstate the displacement in order to create the impression of a capability their economy and remaining industrial base can not longer support.


I think there is no real possibility at all of Russia building anything larger than 20,000 tons or so for the foreseeable future. All carrier designs they put out are deception operations to make it look like their weakness is temporary, when in fact there is nothing whatsoever on the horizon that suggest they can change the country's inability to support anything more.

[BB-55]

Another prospective alternative to the twin island Shtorm and the catamaran carrier. A more asthetically pleasing design (to me anyway) but I see the Russians still won't/can't get beyond the ski-jump on the bow even with catapults on the angled deck. https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/secur ... ft-carrier

[Haijun watcher]

More future Russian carrier designs in the news:


defence blog

Nevskoe Design Bureau is crafting new aircraft carrier concepts for Russian Navy
NewsMaritime Security
By Dylan Malyasov

Jan 19, 2021
Modified date: 16 seconds ago


Concept art showing Nevskoe Design Bureau's aircraft carrier proposal.
Nevskoe Design Bureau, a leading planning and design bureau of shipbuilding industry in Russia, is crafting various proposals of new aircraft carriers, including hybrid modular ships, for the Russian Navy.
Russian ocean-going warships maker Nevskoe Design Bureau has revealed what appears to be a modular aircraft carrier concept called the Varan.
The company says that its primary mission would be to create a universal floating airfield for combat aircraft.

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[Haijun watcher]

The future Varan class will reportedly carry the Su57 fighter:

Defence View

February 27, 2021 - Latest News, Naval Power, Russia
The new Russian aircraft carrier will carry the Su-57 and Okhotnik

The Russian aircraft carrier Varan is likely to be equipped with the Su-57 stealth fighter and the S-70 Okhotnik attack drone.

The latest development product of JSC �Nevsky Design Bureau� in the form of the universal marine complex �Varan�, is actually a midsize aircraft carrier, can be equipped with the stealth fighter Su-57 Naval version and the S-70 Okhotnik unmanned attack aircraft.

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