Slawomir Lipiecki, guy from Poland, loves female cats, Heavy Metal and guns. What's wrong with that? Nothing, I love it, but, well, he's an author for Kagero's naval series, so he's a pro.
And that makes it worth talking to him because soon enough he's going to have a book out on Nevada and that white bridge is going to become "a reference", something a lot more serious than a wrong hull shape on a kit.
Marco_Trigo wrote:Slawomir Lipiecki, guy from Poland, loves female cats, Heavy Metal and guns. What's wrong with that? Nothing, I love it, but, well, he's an author for Kagero's naval series, so he's a pro.
If that's the case... Abe do you want me to contact him or coach you on points to present to him?
His last public message was around the idea that if he was making any profit out of it, he would take the issue seriously... so I'm not sure he's really interested, although he appears to be more receptive to the white not being there.
Marco_Trigo wrote:Slawomir Lipiecki, guy from Poland, loves female cats, Heavy Metal and guns. What's wrong with that? Nothing, I love it, but, well, he's an author for Kagero's naval series, so he's a pro.
If that's the case... Abe do you want me to contact him or coach you on points to present to him?
Whichever is fine with me. As Marco said his last message seemed like he was open to learning more. He also mentioned that he will be making new drawings soon with the launch of his new website, so it sounds like a good time to help get it right! You can see our convo in the comments of the initial drawing I asked about.
Fellows,
If someone is working with Mr. Lipiecki, you might also mention to him that the boat cranes he is depicting for Nevada are actually the type used on Oklahoma. Nevada's cranes had a straight upper arm. Oklahoma's were 'angled'.
Don't know if people have seen this, but there's a load of real color film of USS Nevada presumably at Pearl Harbor in '42 being pulled into dock some time after being raised, from around 40 minutes into the video. There also seems to be a Colorada class featured (presumably West Virginia) being shunted into dock by tugs, from about 34 minutes into the video.
The whole film is a fascinating insite into that place at that time, but most of the best footage is toward the end. Much of it is best viewed on full screen.
Also the first part (reel 1 of 2) is well worth viewing, and includes a battleship amongst other images around Pearl Harbor.
Rob-UK wrote:...There also seems to be a Colorada class featured (presumably West Virginia)...
The 1st one is Tennessee - the first frame you can see the fuzzy hull # - the 2nd digit looks like a 3 or 5 & Colorado wasn't there - also @ "16:28" you can see her wrecked x turret (Tennessee took one of the same bombs/14"AP's Arizona did on top of her x turret & catapult). the last one (with the orange turret) is WV - you can see the Torp damage & shoring on her port side @ 35.23.
Marco_Trigo wrote:Slawomir Lipiecki, guy from Poland, loves female cats, Heavy Metal and guns. What's wrong with that? Nothing, I love it, but, well, he's an author for Kagero's naval series, so he's a pro.
If that's the case... Abe do you want me to contact him or coach you on points to present to him?
Skimming through the plans of Oklahoma that Tracy posted on his site, http://www.researcheratlarge.com/Ships/ ... 70-2_a.jpg , I noticed that the superstructure deck is labeled as 3" Douglas fir whereas the main and upper decks are listed as 3 1/2' teak. Why the difference? And what kind to color difference would we expect to see? Would the Douglas Fir appear darker than the teak? Now I'm wondering if all the battle line was the same way.
When do the plans date from? Wasn't the Navy doing tests on alternates to teak, considering a shortage in the event of war?
Martin
"Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday." John Wayne
Colorado and Maryland were running tests on alternatives (Angelique wood for Maryland and Mangachapoi [Mangachapui in the source docs] on Colorado) at the time of the attack on Pearl Harbor. I haven't seen anything on tests on other ships, but the documentation I have about these tests were something I stumbled upon.
Since there was less blast pressure on the superstructure decks and less rolling around on it, I could see them using a thinner, less durable wood to save money.
Maybe it has something to do with what looks like brown linoleum in that color photo of the Idaho from 1940? Perhaps they're speaking of mastic in the sense of bituminous tar, coated in brick dust or something after it's applied to the steel deck.
Great set of plans, BTW. Thanks Tracy for posting. I've spent 1/2 the morning looking over them. I'll have to print them and have them enlarged - they will be useful if and when I start working on the Iron Shipwright 1/350 Okie again.
Martin
"Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday." John Wayne
MartinJQuinn wrote:
Great set of plans, BTW. Thanks Tracy for posting. I've spent 1/2 the morning looking over them. I'll have to print them and have them enlarged - they will be useful if and when I start working on the Iron Shipwright 1/350 Okie again.
Don't compare the plans to that kit unless you want a few headaches! Hopefully someday we'll see a plastic kit of her.
Looking for any good detail drawings of the Okie's hull. Amazing how you think you know a subject until you actually try to build and detail it. It's for a diorama of the Maryland and Oklahoma in the PH aftermath. So, I'm planning on converting an Arizona hull to the Okie, just using two of the 4 screws, but not being a ship expert, I'd love to see the exact placement of the various details underneath that I'll need to scratchbuild and scribe. PH photos aren't quite enough, I've found.
"If at first you don't succeed, switch to power tools." --Red Green
