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Re: HMS Daring Type 45 DDG "hanger build"

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 12:14 pm
by robbie
Dave Wooley wrote:Hi Robbie thanks for your reply .I would be only too pleased to help send me a PM and we will go from there. As I said in my own reply your 45 build is superb but not just on the outside. Good to see you are progressing so well .My attention is now centered on the remainder of the ship but the interior of the bridge will need to be looked at very soon and for much the same reason as that required for the hanger space. The two RIB galleries are less of a problem but on the other hand they contain a considerable amount of detail, for example the space behind the RIB. OK I know the old argument of "out of site out of mind�. The question is if it�s there and partly visible should it be incorporated into the model and when do you call a halt to how much detail to add? Questions , questions but like you I really need more pictures .Although I was let loose time was the limiting factor otherwise I would have been there for a week. The Rivers batch 1s are an example I have spent a considerable amount of photo time aboard these vessels and I never get fatigued but have I all that I want , the short answer is no and I never will have :frown_2: .
Dave Wooley .
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Hi Dave,

PM sent!!! :wave_1:

Robbie

Re: HMS Daring Type 45 DDG "hanger build"

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 4:27 pm
by Dave Wooley
Moving on with the fitting of the ventilation pipes within the hanger. These where all pre shaped and fitted, so the roof assembly could be removed and replaced until I was satisfied that all was well .
Here is the various shapes for the ventilation pipes, made from aluminum tube .
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The pipes to the rear of the hanger are fitted first and the roof assembly returned in due course
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This is where the easy removal of the entire roof is important as progress can continue with the pipes close to the hanger entrance and beneath the walkway on both sides.
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The roof assembly is refitted to ensure all is well
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The hanger space is easily lifted clear .
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All the rails are fitted into place
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Measuring and cutting the sprinkler system is straight forward fixing requires a still hand and I must confess my language through out this job was less than proper :big_grin: :heh:
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Each length of pipe work for the sprinkler system is fitted . On the port side the pipes are feed above the ventilation pipe work .
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To starboard they are beneath the ventilation pipes . Both feed into the larger bore feeder pipe to the rear of the hanger.
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More to come air brushing the floor area now that was fun . There remains as yet many fittings and of course the lighting .
Dave Wooley :thumbs_up_1: :wave_1:
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Re: HMS Daring Type 45 DDG "hanger build"

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 4:48 pm
by NorthSea
Looks great Dave. :thumbs_up_1: The layers of detail are amazing.

Re: HMS Daring Type 45 DDG "hanger build"

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 5:33 pm
by ARH
The way your going on Dave, you will have JIMMY crying. :heh: :heh: :heh: :wave_1: :wave_1:

Re: HMS Daring Type 45 DDG "hanger build"

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:22 pm
by Richard J OMalley
Unbeliveable :worship_1: :nod_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

Re: HMS Daring Type 45 DDG "hanger build"

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 10:47 pm
by HvyCgn9
WOW amazing detail Dave!! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

I may have 2 re-do the hanger detail on CGN-9 one day it looks shabby now seeing yours! :heh: :heh:

Cheers Bruce :cool_1: :cool_1:

Re: HMS Daring Type 45 DDG "hanger build"

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 10:55 pm
by Cliffy B
Ahhh...the most neglected area of a ship and you sir have done it justice, top notch and inspirational to say the least!!!! :thumbs_up_1:

Re: HMS Daring Type 45 DDG "hanger build"

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 4:27 am
by Dave Wooley
NorthSea wrote:Looks great Dave. :thumbs_up_1: The layers of detail are amazing.
Thanks NorthSea You have hit the "nail on the head" yes they are ineed layers of detail but the big question with any attempt to incorporate such levels is not just how you manage the detail , as important as that is but more to the point when to decide enough is enough ?
Dave Wooley :thumbs_up_1: :wave_1:

Re: HMS Daring Type 45 DDG "hanger build"

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 4:37 am
by Dave Wooley
ARH wrote:The way your going on Dave, you will have JIMMY crying. :heh: :heh: :heh: :wave_1: :wave_1:
Ron my friend you flatter me to much . The great man had a chance to examine the hanger on Sunday and I saw not one tinge of a tear so its plod on and do your best. To impress the great man sufficent to warrent a tear requires a model of extraordinary qualities :heh:
Dave Wooley :thumbs_up_1: :wave_1:

Re: HMS Daring Type 45 DDG "hanger build"

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 4:40 am
by Dave Wooley
Richard J OMalley wrote:Unbeliveable :worship_1: :nod_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:
Thank you Richard but I wish I had to talent to mould a hull in GRP as you and Ron are capable of doing .
Dave Wooley :thumbs_up_1: :wave_1:

Re: HMS Daring Type 45 DDG "hanger build"

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 4:46 am
by Dave Wooley
HvyCgn9 wrote:WOW amazing detail Dave!! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

I may have 2 re-do the hanger detail on CGN-9 one day it looks shabby now seeing yours! :heh: :heh:

Cheers Bruce :cool_1: :cool_1:
Hi Bruce good to hear from you and thank you . The one advantage you have is no matter what you do with the hanger on CGN-9 no one can offer any advice as to how it could be improved. It's your call :nod_2:
Dave Wooley :thumbs_up_1: :wave_1:

Re: HMS Daring Type 45 DDG "hanger build"

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 4:53 am
by Song Jung Gun
It's amazing! is it real construction site?

Re: HMS Daring Type 45 DDG "hanger build"

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 5:06 am
by Dave Wooley
Cliffy B wrote:Ahhh...the most neglected area of a ship and you sir have done it justice, top notch and inspirational to say the least!!!! :thumbs_up_1:
Hi Cliffy your comment are much appreciated . Perhaps as modern warships shed much of their "exposed" fittings then perhaps the model maker looks to other part of the ships such as the hanger that can offer some "sope" for modelling. :thumbs_up_1: :wave_1:
Dave Wooley

Re: HMS Daring Type 45 DDG "hanger build"

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 5:12 am
by Dave Wooley
Song Jung Gun wrote:It's amazing! is it real construction site?
Song praise is praise indeed . I even took a picture with some of the fittings resting on the floor of the hanger all I need to create a diorama was pots of paint and figures in hard hats :heh: Song I look at your latest model and think of the many skills I have yet to learn :nod_1:
Dave Wooley :thumbs_up_1: :wave_1:

Re: HMS Daring Type 45 DDG "hanger build"

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 5:34 am
by johndon
Great stuff Dave, most impressive :thumbs_up_1:

John

Re: HMS Daring Type 45 DDG "hanger build"

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 5:54 am
by Neptune
Did somebody already tell you you're barking mad? If not, I'm telling you: You're barking mad!!!

Couldn't look any more realistic apart from some people and dirt inside. A brilliant airbrush job as well, no sign of any imperfections nor uneven surfaces, and those pics are really taken up close!
My attempt at the Udaloy hangar looks like a 3-year old child's attempt at drawing a house with a backyard now, thanks!

I guess the ship won't do justice to the hangar :heh:

PS: my Visby has taken shape very rapidly, minor stuff to be done. :heh:

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Re: HMS Daring Type 45 DDG "hanger build"

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:39 am
by Capit�o Norbert
Hi Dave the pics are great
the loto of detail is incredible
great effort with no plan of these arrangment
no words :wave_1:

Re: HMS Daring Type 45 DDG "hanger build"

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:56 pm
by Yevgeniy
Dave, that is real modeling!!! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: Small fragment of a big ship but so convincing!!

Looking forward to see more!

Yevgeniy

Re: HMS Daring Type 45 DDG "hanger build"

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:58 pm
by Yevgeniy
Neptune wrote: PS: my Visby has taken shape very rapidly, minor stuff to be done
Neptune, I hope Dave will forgive me for off-topic question, but as you mentioned it here - is any chance to see photos of your Visby - may be there is a thread on forum already? I presume it is big scale RC thing and would be interested to see the model as well as from where you got the plans :heh: :heh: :smallsmile:

Cheers,

Yevgeniy

Re: HMS Daring Type 45 DDG "hanger build"

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 2:46 pm
by Dave Wooley
johndon wrote:Great stuff Dave, most impressive :thumbs_up_1:

John
hello John good to hear from you , thank you . Presently looking around for a good quality RN EH 101 Kit :heh:
Dave Wooley :thumbs_up_1: :wave_1: