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Re: Bismarck 1/100

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 11:43 am
by Capit�o Norbert
Hi Dave.
Yes some parts are intricated and very difficult to do. i was thinking how i am solve some parts.. exactly the round parts of shown in the pictures. and i am solving in my head what i can do to solve.
each piece i am doing i need stop another part cause is impossible dedication to two things in same time.
i need restart another unfinished parts and make the funnel paralel...
i thank you the comments. yes each builder have your methods to do and i apreciate it.
is cool share it...
Many regards
when progress i post :thumbs_up_1: :wave_1:

Re: Bismarck 1/100

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:23 pm
by ozpirate
First time poster to your part of the forum and WOW what a build.
Capit�o Norbert When you make your parts when they have a circular wall, what thickness of plastic to you use? I'm currently trying my hand at building the Admiral Kuznetsov 1/72 and have some difficult curves in the lower superstructure. I tried to construct it using 1.5mm plastic and found it was quite difficult to work with but if I use 1mm plastic to does an inward warp. Or should I use 1mm and reinforce it? I reinforced the 1.5mm and the only problems I had was getting it to stay there. Do you warm your plastic to fit better or what? Help please.

Re: Bismarck 1/100

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 7:56 am
by Capit�o Norbert
Hi ozpirate thank you by the kind words.
well i use the 0.5mm and the 0.8mm to circular walls. i using 1mm in the circular bridge of Bismarck with success.
but you have in mind he tickness of styrene i use is acording the platform or piece you are doing, example: in the searchlight platform of bridge i use 0.5mm. To revest the funnel( i still don't do) i am use 0.8mm i think.'as i said i use 1mm in the circular platform of the model.
no i don't use any hot font or hot water to bend. i bend in cold process. the hot water help certainly but it's not my process.
the secret is make a perfect soft curve, and correcting this curve don't be hard corner cause can danificate the styrene belt used to revest the piece. when you make a soft curve don't have any trouble.
but you have in mind when more tickness you use more complex is to do it.
i never use more than 1mm. Using 1mm it makes very strong a contrary force. you need glue first a part straight line using a good styrene glue. it leaves to dry a little after you can reinforce this part with a litlle bit of cianoacrylate. just use few ciano very feel. just prevent a strong gluig in the moment. after many hours what goes hold the part is the styrene glue you use before.
well after you can gluing the round part and holding with the hands or another tool you prefer, i prefer use the hands. after holding just minutes you can add again the cyano(very litte too) and continuing the process. Don't forget to measure the lenght of belt you use for a circular piece and leave a excess of each side to cut later. The excess is necessary. Too i make a pencil line and glue using this line to make a good gluing and aligned too.
you can use too bend(using a hot font of your preference) to broke (in part) a resistence of styrene in the round part. but you can use it when you are bending a large part of styrene and using too 0.8 or 1mm. i never need use 1.5 is very strong the contrary force.
i think this help you. any thing please ask me.
i am post some pictures to explain what tickness i use ok?
regards :wave_1:

Re: Bismarck 1/100

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 8:14 am
by Capit�o Norbert
OZ some pictures to ilustrate... :thumbs_up_1:

Re: Bismarck 1/100

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 8:16 am
by Capit�o Norbert
:smallsmile:
i use 0.8mm here too
i use 0.8mm here too
and finally i use 0.5mm in the searchlight platform.....<br />don't forget... a good curve help so much...<br />Bye
and finally i use 0.5mm in the searchlight platform.....
don't forget... a good curve help so much...
Bye

Re: Bismarck 1/100

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 2:21 pm
by ozpirate
Thanks for the info, I'll give it a go and keeping my fingers crossed.

Re: Bismarck 1/100

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:07 am
by Capit�o Norbert
ok. do you have some picture of the piece you are doing?
maibe i can help more.. :wave_1:

Re: Bismarck 1/100

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 8:16 am
by Capit�o Norbert
Hellow fellow modellers..
i am posting more pictures of the funnel buildings... :thumbs_up_1:
the purple line and yellow line is to show how this part have an elevation in the end of funnel near the hook
the purple line and yellow line is to show how this part have an elevation in the end of funnel near the hook
revesting the piece
revesting the piece
03_bx.jpg

Re: Bismarck 1/100

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 8:20 am
by Dave Wooley
I do like the idea of the extra stips on the inside of the funnel casing :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:
Dave Wooley

Re: Bismarck 1/100

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 8:20 am
by Capit�o Norbert
:thumbs_up_1:
holding to glue
holding to glue
this is me and my buildings
this is me and my buildings
another view of me and part of funnel
another view of me and part of funnel

Re: Bismarck 1/100

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 8:22 am
by Capit�o Norbert
yes Dave, this is a reinforce too to hold some external parts... but is better do a not much large belt... :thumbs_up_1:

Re: Bismarck 1/100

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 8:25 am
by Capit�o Norbert
:heh:

Re: Bismarck 1/100

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 8:27 am
by Capit�o Norbert
:big_grin:
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Re: Bismarck 1/100

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 8:31 am
by Capit�o Norbert
some elements still not glued
13_bx.jpg
searchlight platform
searchlight platform
preparing to cut
preparing to cut

Re: Bismarck 1/100

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 8:36 am
by Capit�o Norbert
the searchlight platform make part of building leaves strong in the place :thumbs_up_1:

Re: Bismarck 1/100

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 8:38 am
by Capit�o Norbert
well that's it today..
until next.. :wave_1:
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a view of the funnelllllll<br />bye
a view of the funnelllllll
bye

Re: Bismarck 1/100

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:16 am
by SweeperSkipper
The level of detail and use of Styrene is simply Outstanding. I love the cutter, Will have to add that tool to the Box.
Awesome work. :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

Re: Bismarck 1/100

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 8:03 am
by capitao Norbert
hI SweeperSkipper thank you the nice words .
yes some tools are very usefull
recently i purchase a tool to make rivets(simulate) in the styrene. is from Hasegawa and a nice tool and is like a pen.
but i need invest more in specially tools
Regards :thumbs_up_1:

Re: Bismarck 1/100

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 8:10 am
by Capit�o Norbert
Hi SweeperSkipper
thank you by the kind words.
yes really the cutter is a good and very usefull tool.
i need invest in more specific tools too.
I have seen its work also. its. outstanding job.
soon i am post new pictures or the funnel's work
Regards :thumbs_up_1:

Re: Bismarck 1/100

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:04 am
by Capit�o Norbert
Rebuilding the rear part of funnel.....
Hi fellow modellers i am here again
and the pictures show the rebuild the rear part of funnel.
i ignorate one drawing i don't have in the main plan i have, so \to construct this part
i planed in my head how do it. ok this work but one part of the funnel(rear part) was so much difficult
to revest satisfactory. and i looking for more information i find in another plan i have an important drawing
just the rear part of this subject. now i cut out the part i am doing and with the new drawing i having in hands
now this work so well. but this consuming my few time too unfortunately.
i am revest this weekend. please show the pics and see the difference.
ship modelling as always a great challenge but i am happy to do it.
Regards all
:thumbs_up_1:
gluing the block......
gluing the block......
part rebuilded
part rebuilded
new structure to rear part..... yes the inclination of the bulkheads make the difference.<br />the piece revest perfect now.
new structure to rear part..... yes the inclination of the bulkheads make the difference.
the piece revest perfect now.