1/100 HMS Zinnia ( 1915 )

Post by **Dave Wooley** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:59 pm

Hi Laurent I've been watching carefully how you develop the plating using paper . It's a method I need to perfect for Rurik . The results achieved are excellent . thanks for showing how this is done .

Dave Wooley

Torpedo · Post by **Torpedo** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 2:17 am

Try to use Aluminium. This is quite resistable, but very good to sand and cut (even with a knife). And it provides the resistance you need for a R/C model.

Laurent · Post by **Laurent** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:59 pm

Hi all ,

at last , I decided to build the two bilge keels out of cardboard , seemed easier to me than glueing some aluminium or brass ...

hereby the results , as the remaining of the cardboard , it got a coat of G4 resin , it is tough enough to withstand handling and little beachings .

seen from under

Seen from above , a little L bar as reinforcement has been glued

I then applied a first coat of grey to the whole hull . this coat showed some places on the hull that need to be puttied & sanded ...

here under an area that will have to be smoothened , too much dents to me

the remaining of the hull is better

the bow at the starboard side is in better shape

a stern shot

Once the grey paint was dry & tough ( I waited 24 hours ) , I then put the black paint between the top of the load water line and the empty water line , don't know the name for that black strake , in french , it is called "faux col � mazout" , and after that , 24 hours later again , I applied the hull red .

that's it for today

I have to be ready for the november contest at our club ( a yearly contest where all the models built during the year are judged ) , but I don't think I'll be ready by then ...

Cheers ,

Laurent

Reid · Post by **Reid** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:57 pm

O FANTASTIC!!! that looks great at it is all scale too!!!

Avery Boyer · Post by **Avery Boyer** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:50 pm

Something about it is just incredible! Fantastic work!!

Jefgte · Post by **Jefgte** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:22 pm

Superb hull Laurent

Compliments

Jef

Dino Carancini · Post by **Dino Carancini** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 12:53 am

Superb! it looks really accurate!

Torpedo · Post by **Torpedo** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 2:21 am

Looks very realistic. What about the red colour? Was it that bright? The IG Kaiserliche Marine uses RAL 3011 which tends a little bit more to dark red/brown. They have found pieces from paint of a sunken ship which led to this colour.

***P.S. RAL is german standard, I don't know it something like this exists in other countries.

Laurent · Post by **Laurent** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 2:49 am

Hi Guys ,

Many thanks for the comments !

To Uli ,

Yes , RAL standards are known in the rest of Europe , it is used everywhere .

The hull red I use is a primer , sold in cans by "Motip" , the reference is 04055 , I've found that this red looks really realistic :

the grey & black paints I use are also primers , they have a semi-gloss finish, my experience with those paints is that they do fade a little after a few hours navigation on the pond ...

RAL 3011 should nearly match this Motip 04055 , but as far as we may rely on a computer screen , I'd say that 04055 is nearer to RAL 2002 ...

hereby a site with all the RAL references :
http://www.ultimedia.fr/nuancier.htm

Before that , when I used to paint my models with a brush , I used "Humbrol" #70 , but , for now , this reference is not right to me ...

Regards ,

Laurent

Andy G · Post by **Andy G** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:10 am

Hi Laurent - you stated in your last big update "too many dents"; but at a hull length of around 32" by 4", photos like this:

...really demonstrate the quality of the work. She looks marvellous! Big close-ups on digital cameras, lit with a low-angled light sources, always make things more noticeable than I bet they really are.

(And I'm not so far off an image like that myself - though your 2.8lb displacement (?) is a world away from my 110lb equivalent (!) )

Keep up the amazing work!

Andy

Post by **Dave Wooley** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 5:38 am

Hi laurent . Your plating and finished paint work is excellent . Very well explained. I'm looking forward to the rest of the build. Question do you spray the finished paint work with clear flat varnish? I find this gives a good protective surface? varnish

Dave Wooley

Laurent · Post by **Laurent** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 1:23 pm

Hi Andy & Dave ,

thanks for your comments ...

Yes , those dents are not really noticeable , but as I'm a kind of a PITA , I want to get it right , my ambitions with this model are to go to the 2008 Belgian NAVIGA championship , just to see where I'm , so it has to be perfect and for now , it is not

About the paint , I never put varnish on it , my sailing experiences tell me that there is no need to varnish acrylic paints .

But in this case , as I'll have to put transfer lettering & decals on the hull ( ship's name & depth marks ) , so I'll have to spray some varnish on it ...

I've found in the Motip range acrylic varnishes in cans , matt & semi-gloss.

Regards ,

Laurent

Post by **Dave Wooley** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 1:56 pm

Laurent wrote:Hi Andy & Dave ,

thanks for your comments ...

Yes , those dents are not really noticeable , but as I'm a kind of a PITA , I want to get it right , my ambitions with this model are to go to the 2008 Belgian NAVIGA championship , just to see where I'm , so it has to be perfect and for now , it is not

About the paint , I never put varnish on it , my sailing experiences tell me that there is no need to varnish acrylic paints .

But in this case , as I'll have to put transfer lettering & decals on the hull ( ship's name & depth marks ) , so I'll have to spray some varnish on it ...

I've found in the Motip range acrylic varnishes in cans , matt & semi-gloss.

Regards ,

Laurent

Hi laurent were is the venue in Belgian for the Naviga champs. I used to compete at Naviga in the 1970 and early 80s . Is this the "C" class championships or the motors. I'd like to go and see Naviga again before I get to old . As a matter of interest I use the Humbrol matt spray .
Dave Wooley

Laurent · Post by **Laurent** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 2:14 pm

Hi Dave ,

I just want to play in the C class , no sailing championship with this one , as this model , like all the ones with only one propeller , are not really able to go astern ...

I might change my opinion , though , I just don't know how "Zinnia" will act on the water .

My next project should be "Mogador" , a 1938 french destroyer , with two propellers , much better to sail the NAVIGA figures , but this will be in a few years , I'm a slow builder and I have a commission after Zinnia ( my very first commission , you'll get the building report here ) ...

Regards ,

Laurent

Jefgte · Post by **Jefgte** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 5:46 pm

Mogador !!!!

Super Laurent

Jef

Edward Pinniger · Post by **Edward Pinniger** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 1:43 pm

The paint has transformed the hull of your model - it really looks great. The plating looks particularly realistic - it's hard to imagine that this is made from strips of paper!
I'm definitely looking forward to seeing more updates on this build.

Laurent · Post by **Laurent** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 2:00 pm

EPinniger wrote:The paint has transformed the hull of your model - it really looks great. The plating looks particularly realistic - it's hard to imagine that this is made from strips of paper!
I'm definitely looking forward to seeing more updates on this build.

Hi mister "E" ,

yes , indeed , you're right ...

I always say that modelling is like illusion , one can use a lot of materials , as long as you get the impression it is as the real stuff , then it is ...

brass , styrene , paper , whatever you use to build your models , once the surface is painted straight & clean , it looks like steel ...

Regards ,

Laurent

Laurent · Post by **Laurent** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:00 am

Hi all ,

I was meanwhile busy with the bulkwark around the main deck , with stanchions & deck stanchions , here again cardboard for the bulwark has been used , the stanchions are out of card either , the L shaped struts also , the whole has or will be impregnated with G4 resin :

I began also with the building of the trawl winch , everything will be out of wood , card & paper , except the shafts , the connecting rods , steam valves and brake handles :

the main gear , the teeth must still be done :

the two steam cylinders :

Any comment welcome !

Regards ,

Laurent

J. Soca · Post by **J. Soca** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:40 pm

That's looing great Laurent

, i still don't know how you guys do it, i once bought the 1/250 scale paper model of the Fuso i couldn't even finish half of the pagoda structure.

Post by **JIM BAUMANN** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 6:56 pm

the pictures speak a thousand words!

Jim B