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1/144 Kiev by Dave Wooley
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Re: 1/144 Kiev by Dave Wooley
Peter, thank you from that reference to Aber from me too - they have fantastic products as 'drilled plate' and 'meshes' I did not see before
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Re: 1/144 Kiev by Dave Wooley
Hi Ron thanks for that but i have that mesh { car body repair } and the scale is just over size on thickness and mesh size for 1:144. .
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Re: 1/144 Kiev by Dave Wooley
Hi Peter Bingo Looks like this is the mesh I need .Had a look at S25 and S24 Hexagonal and the spacing seems to correspond, relatively at 1:144 to that on the Kiev. In fact there is a supplier in the UK of Aber products. Order done .ingura wrote:Dave,
the test-item I did fits 55 x 5 mm as you can tell from the photo
Just a suggestion - have you thought about using ABER PE parts (widely known among "tankers").
http://aber.net.pl/list/siatki_i_plytki ... ia_w_rozn/
look up the item "S 19" for example - the detail drawing gives you the impression that it is an engraved plate, but in fact it is a net etch.
This should be as good as mine, if not better. What do you think?
Peter.
http://www.historexagents.com/shop/hxsh ... er_Website
Once again Peter thank you for all you valuable help
Dave Wooley
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Re: 1/144 Kiev by Dave Wooley
The work is never ending!Dave Wooley wrote:Hi Norbert Still working on some of the detail forward around the SS-N-12 launch tubes. The work is never ending! But I will be posting soon! Thanks for your support.Capit�o Norbert wrote:Hi Wooley your model is fantastic, please do you have more pics to show us?
the painting looks superb too.
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i know this too
you work work and never ending......
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Re: 1/144 Kiev by Dave Wooley
I haven�t posted for a short while but I have been active on the build, It�s just
that the jobs in hand are very repetitive and are time consuming. All the port
holes along the side of the hull needed glazing. Each of the life raft containers
needed straps. There are also a series of berthing rings forward at the top
edge of the hull that needed to be made and in a particular way as not all are
the same size. Then there was the job of fixing the Cyrillic name plate and
pennant numbers. . This was followed by the fixing of the red star at the bow,
but with a slight difference. Finally the Soviet maritime aviation emblem right
forward at the stem. So let�s start with the simple application of making and
fixing the hundred or so port holes on the side of the hull.
Port holes
I must admit I cheated on this one. Yes holes where made but I glazed these
with dark acetate. Yes they do give the impression that they are slightly
recessed but it is more illusionary than actual. This is because the acetate is
pulled slightly into the hole provided. , but as compensation it looks quite effective.
First job was to take the punch and punch out the size required.

Carefully removing the glazing from the punch
Each roundel of glazing was coated in Clear fix

The glazing was then fitted to the port hole.

The end result


Dave Wooley more to come

that the jobs in hand are very repetitive and are time consuming. All the port
holes along the side of the hull needed glazing. Each of the life raft containers
needed straps. There are also a series of berthing rings forward at the top
edge of the hull that needed to be made and in a particular way as not all are
the same size. Then there was the job of fixing the Cyrillic name plate and
pennant numbers. . This was followed by the fixing of the red star at the bow,
but with a slight difference. Finally the Soviet maritime aviation emblem right
forward at the stem. So let�s start with the simple application of making and
fixing the hundred or so port holes on the side of the hull.
Port holes
I must admit I cheated on this one. Yes holes where made but I glazed these
with dark acetate. Yes they do give the impression that they are slightly
recessed but it is more illusionary than actual. This is because the acetate is
pulled slightly into the hole provided. , but as compensation it looks quite effective.
First job was to take the punch and punch out the size required.

Carefully removing the glazing from the punch
Each roundel of glazing was coated in Clear fix

The glazing was then fitted to the port hole.

The end result


Dave Wooley more to come
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Re: 1/144 Kiev by Dave Wooley
hI Dave, very sharp technic to solv this. superb.
i would like to say about your hull shape as i saw in the bow. superb very well done.
and the painting job is so much good. i would like too to ask what effect clear fix give to the piece. i don't know this product.
Nice regards

i would like to say about your hull shape as i saw in the bow. superb very well done.
and the painting job is so much good. i would like too to ask what effect clear fix give to the piece. i don't know this product.
Nice regards
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Re: 1/144 Kiev by Dave Wooley
Hi Norbert good to hear from you . Clearfix for this job is used as an adhesive as it bonds the acetate material without misting the surface. Thanks for your kind comments .Capit�o Norbert wrote:hI Dave, very sharp technic to solv this. superb.
i would like to say about your hull shape as i saw in the bow. superb very well done.
and the painting job is so much good. i would like too to ask what effect clear fix give to the piece. i don't know this product.
Nice regards![]()
Dave Wooley
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Re: 1/144 Kiev by Dave Wooley
HI Dave havnt posted on here in a while as been busy doin my nimitz but now lookin through what you doin its top notch as usual fansatic work to behold an that clearfix is it on genral sale or do you have to order it as i have never seen it before an how long has it been availeable an you say you can paint the acetate so it glues without misting over.Even the bit which has to be seen ? an did you buy or build the life raft containers ?
chris
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Re: 1/144 Kiev by Dave Wooley
Hi Chris As you know I have been following your Nimitz build very closely . In your last update you were fitting acetate sheet to the windows on the bridge . You can fit these with Clearfix and it is still available at least from my local model shop.It is a very useful material and it really does do the job. The life raft containers are two part moulded plastic. Keep going with the Nimitz build, I'll be looking in .boatman wrote:HI Dave havnt posted on here in a while as been busy doin my nimitz but now lookin through what you doin its top notch as usual fansatic work to behold an that clearfix is it on genral sale or do you have to order it as i have never seen it before an how long has it been availeable an you say you can paint the acetate so it glues without misting over.Even the bit which has to be seen ? an did you buy or build the life raft containers ?
chris
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Re: 1/144 Kiev by Dave Wooley
Moving on a little to one of the more laborious jobs .making and fitting the
straps that secure each the life raft containers.
This is the start but I needed to work out a simple but effective method
to mark off and cut over 250 straps .

To reproduce the straps I used a very narrow width marking tape.

This was stretched out along a length of styrene and a strip corresponding
to the width of the strap cut to length.

Each length of strap was measured and cut

With the tape being on a sheet of styrene , removing the measured length
of strap was easy .

Each end of the strap was treated with an adhesive to ensure that it would be
fixed securely to the life raft container. Although the job was tedious and repetitive,
with the method worked out a technique for fixing followed quite quickly.
To avoid the possibility of mistakes the fixing of the straps was limited to
10 containers per session .

Dave Wooley more to come

straps that secure each the life raft containers.
This is the start but I needed to work out a simple but effective method
to mark off and cut over 250 straps .

To reproduce the straps I used a very narrow width marking tape.

This was stretched out along a length of styrene and a strip corresponding
to the width of the strap cut to length.

Each length of strap was measured and cut

With the tape being on a sheet of styrene , removing the measured length
of strap was easy .

Each end of the strap was treated with an adhesive to ensure that it would be
fixed securely to the life raft container. Although the job was tedious and repetitive,
with the method worked out a technique for fixing followed quite quickly.
To avoid the possibility of mistakes the fixing of the straps was limited to
10 containers per session .

Dave Wooley more to come
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Re: 1/144 Kiev by Dave Wooley
i can only speak for myself. you make a guy not scratchbuild anymore. you and Chris Boatman. God! 
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Re: 1/144 Kiev by Dave Wooley
Hi gtbred thank you for your kind words. Chris Boatman has a much more involved job building his Nimitz which is an amazing piece of workmanship .gtbred wrote:i can only speak for myself. you make a guy not scratchbuild anymore. you and Chris Boatman. God!
Dave Wooley
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Re: 1/144 Kiev by Dave Wooley
The next step in continuing with the smaller details was to make the 6 mooring pipes,
4 smaller oval type and 2 larger oval type .All mounted forward.
Material used was two diameters of styrene tube a .50mm styrene sheet

First a 2mm thick section was sliced from the tube using a tube cutter.

The basic result a circular styrene ring .

To achieve to oval shape of the mooring pipe the styrene ring is slightly
compressed between the thumb and four finger

The edges of each mooring ring are rounded off. A section of styrene sheet is
prepared this will form the backing plate .

A series of smaller diameter holes are punched out.

Each ring is fixed into place over the holes.

This photo gives some idea of the outer thickness of each mooring pipe.

Fillers is applied around the inside of the ring to provide the dished impression of the pipe .

The fillers is carefully sanded down to blend in to the inside of the mooring pipe.

All that is required is for each mooring pipe to be cut away from the styrene
sheet and painted in preparation for fitting to the side of the hull.
Dave Wooley more to come

4 smaller oval type and 2 larger oval type .All mounted forward.
Material used was two diameters of styrene tube a .50mm styrene sheet

First a 2mm thick section was sliced from the tube using a tube cutter.

The basic result a circular styrene ring .

To achieve to oval shape of the mooring pipe the styrene ring is slightly
compressed between the thumb and four finger

The edges of each mooring ring are rounded off. A section of styrene sheet is
prepared this will form the backing plate .

A series of smaller diameter holes are punched out.

Each ring is fixed into place over the holes.

This photo gives some idea of the outer thickness of each mooring pipe.

Fillers is applied around the inside of the ring to provide the dished impression of the pipe .

The fillers is carefully sanded down to blend in to the inside of the mooring pipe.

All that is required is for each mooring pipe to be cut away from the styrene
sheet and painted in preparation for fitting to the side of the hull.
Dave Wooley more to come
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Re: 1/144 Kiev by Dave Wooley
Hey Dave, looks great as always!
You probably mentioned this before, but what filler are you using?
You probably mentioned this before, but what filler are you using?
De quoi s'agit-il?
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Re: 1/144 Kiev by Dave Wooley
Hi Timmy good to hear from you . the fillers used is {in the UK} P38 . This is a very fine body filler and when set can be easily sanded down.Timmy C wrote:Hey Dave, looks great as always!
You probably mentioned this before, but what filler are you using?
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Re: 1/144 Kiev by Dave Wooley
One of the less tedious tasks offering some rest bite and a departure from the
more repetitive jobs was the fixing of the ships name. , which is in Cyrillic
lettering . these are peel off letters made to order .

All that was required was to ensure that the lettering was set at the correct
height and spacing. The simple expedient of a strip of low tack tape which
ensures that the height was correct one letter to the other. Each letter was
placed in position separately with the spacing marked on the tape.

Tape removed lettering in place

At the top of the picture is two of the three mooring pipes in place .
Dave Wooley more to come.
more repetitive jobs was the fixing of the ships name. , which is in Cyrillic
lettering . these are peel off letters made to order .

All that was required was to ensure that the lettering was set at the correct
height and spacing. The simple expedient of a strip of low tack tape which
ensures that the height was correct one letter to the other. Each letter was
placed in position separately with the spacing marked on the tape.

Tape removed lettering in place

At the top of the picture is two of the three mooring pipes in place .
Dave Wooley more to come.
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Re: 1/144 Kiev by Dave Wooley
Great job there Dave, I can see the result of your mooring pipe (which we actually call a "closed lead or closed chock") in the last picture. Great results that's for sure. Can we assume you're nearly finished now that you're putting the name on the ship? Or was it just to take a break from the straps?
Looks great so far, I'm eager to see an overall shot of the ship? or is it better to wait until it's finished?
Looks great so far, I'm eager to see an overall shot of the ship? or is it better to wait until it's finished?
The merchant shipyard
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Re: 1/144 Kiev by Dave Wooley
Hi Roel the same fitting different name . I have a confession, I have quite a bit of detail yet to add . I just wanted to finish some part of the ship. I guess that the finishing post will appear very rapidly when I can see it that is!
Thanks for asking. I must admit I enjoyed the challenge of making the ships crest!!!!
Dave Wooley

Thanks for asking. I must admit I enjoyed the challenge of making the ships crest!!!!
Dave Wooley
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Re: 1/144 Kiev by Dave Wooley
Thank you Filipvs your comments are appreciated.Filipvs wrote:Your work is perfect. Nothing more Nothing less. Only perfect.
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Re: 1/144 Kiev by Dave Wooley
Dave, i did not see the photos of the real thing but the name plate (as all other things) look real to me.
You say it is peel off letters...Is it kind of decal or self-adhesive? If it is the latter can you give some examples where it is used 'in real life' so to say as I have never heard of such kind of letters and opportunity.
Yevgeniy
You say it is peel off letters...Is it kind of decal or self-adhesive? If it is the latter can you give some examples where it is used 'in real life' so to say as I have never heard of such kind of letters and opportunity.
Yevgeniy
