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Re: Diorama - 1/700 USS Ajax AR-6 & Knox FFs
Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 5:08 pm
by NukeMM
Rui Matos wrote:Taking good shape, Carl
Keep up
Rui
Thanks, Rui!
The individual details, from FF to FF, keep popping up as I study the inspiration photos. The latest being the gray canvas railings on the pilot house top on the FF-1062. The white ones on the FF-1086 were more obvious.
And then, there is no Captain's Gig on the FF-1062. I may have to portray an empty platform, there, and then make something like that under the gigs for the others, too.
The FF-1086 doesn't have the more modern life raft cannisters. I has the older inflatable raft "bags", instead.
If you see any more differing details, please feel free to let me know. And that goes for anyone, out there.
Re: Diorama - 1/700 USS Ajax AR-6 & Knox FFs
Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 5:19 pm
by Rui Matos
This would be a nice detail:
Rui
Re: Diorama - 1/700 USS Ajax AR-6 & Knox FFs
Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 5:27 pm
by NukeMM
Rui Matos wrote:This would be a nice detail:
Rui
Oh, I know! I know!
I looked at the two different missile launchers that I have (AFV Club and Skywave/DML) and I couldn't see how I could make this detail work with them.
I'd have to scratch build something to look like that and then make all three ships' launchers match. I chose not to portray that detail, at all.
My dio is about 5 minutes after they leveled out that launcher. Ha!
But, this is exactly what I'm asking for, Rui! You've got the best eye for details, that I have run across, so far. At least the only one that speaks up about it, the most. And that's a good thing.

Re: Diorama - 1/700 USS Ajax AR-6 & Knox FFs
Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 5:59 pm
by Russ2146
I'm curious about how you're going to do that tripod based radio mast atop the after deck house in 1/700. The best shot I've seen on it is
http://www.navsource.org/archives/09/25/09250617.jpg
Here's a shot of Vulcan's, though not atop a deck house.
http://www.navsource.org/archives/09/25/09250508.jpg
Russ
Re: Diorama - 1/700 USS Ajax AR-6 & Knox FFs
Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 7:34 pm
by NukeMM
Re: Diorama - 1/700 USS Ajax AR-6 & Knox FFs
Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:47 pm
by Russ2146
Carl,
Cargo handling first, what that is, is an extension that can either be taken off or can be folded under/over. When extended, the crane has longer reach but lower weight capacity.How to describe this? You're going to need another crane boom of slightly smaller "thickness", the large end of which would fit the end of the basic ship's crane.
I think the radio mast is a brass wire situation with the triple support legs being thinner stock than the verticle. You can get low temp solder from model expo. They also have "magnesia block" which is heat proof but porous. Stick your verticla into it and the tripod legs leaning into the mast with the low temp paste on the mast ends and touching the mast. Apply the soldering iron to the end of the mast and remove when the low temp solder melts. I'd start with longer wires than needed and when done, trim the wires to get the proper lengths. The angle of the legs to the mast has to be pretty small.
Russ
The alternative is CA, of course, but I think that would be extremely delicate, given the minimal sizes of the connecting faces.
Re: Diorama - 1/700 USS Ajax AR-6 & Knox FFs
Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 10:07 pm
by NukeMM
Russ2146 wrote:Carl,
Cargo handling first, what that is, is an extension that can either be taken off or can be folded under/over. When extended, the crane has longer reach but lower weight capacity.How to describe this? You're going to need another crane boom of slightly smaller "thickness", the large end of which would fit the end of the basic ship's crane.
I think the radio mast is a brass wire situation with the triple support legs being thinner stock than the verticle. You can get low temp solder from model expo. They also have "magnesia block" which is heat proof but porous. Stick your verticla into it and the tripod legs leaning into the mast with the low temp paste on the mast ends and touching the mast. Apply the soldering iron to the end of the mast and remove when the low temp solder melts. I'd start with longer wires than needed and when done, trim the wires to get the proper lengths. The angle of the legs to the mast has to be pretty small.
Russ
The alternative is CA, of course, but I think that would be extremely delicate, given the minimal sizes of the connecting faces.
Russ,
I was kidding. I wasn't actually expecting you to tell me how to do it. I'm a smartass but, you don't know that.
Thanks for the soldering tips, though, and your knowledge on the crane and cargo handling. I know that, that's your specialty.

Re: Diorama - 1/700 USS Ajax AR-6 & Knox FFs
Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 12:44 pm
by Rui Matos
Hey
Lot's of good tips for your Carl
As for the launchers "problem", you have to sacrifice 2 to make one like that:
1 - One for the two launchers (starboard side)
2 - One to cut both ends, for the 3 upright launcher and the port one
It's a cheap price for that extra detail

Consider it
Rui

Re: Diorama - 1/700 USS Ajax AR-6 & Knox FFs
Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 1:13 pm
by NukeMM
Rui Matos wrote:Hey
Lot's of good tips for your Carl
As for the launchers "problem", you have to sacrifice 2 to make one like that:
1 - One for the two launchers (starboard side)
2 - One to cut both ends, for the 3 upright launcher and the port one
It's a cheap price for that extra detail

Consider it
Rui

I understand what you mean, Rui.
The disappointing thing about the two different launchers that I have is that they are both hollow underneath, not solid. But, I haven't given up the thought.
Thanks,
Re: Diorama - 1/700 USS Ajax AR-6 & Knox FFs
Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 1:29 pm
by Rui Matos
The smartest thing to use is Milliput White or Tamiya Light Curing Putty (I have used it recently on a project with major surgery with very high success).
If you need a launcher, so that you have two equal parts, please ask
I have a AFV Knox to turn into Spanish Navy Extremadura F75 frigate (for the My Navy Days Cabinet - I made some exercises with her), and some other PitRoad parts that I can part of. PM me if you want!
Cheers,
Rui
Re: Diorama - 1/700 USS Ajax AR-6 & Knox FFs
Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 4:09 pm
by Sr. Gopher
Looking Good!!

Re: Diorama - 1/700 USS Ajax AR-6 & Knox FFs
Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 5:31 pm
by NukeMM
Sr. Gopher wrote:Looking Good!!

Thanks, Gopher!
This project is on the back burner, for a little while, while I'm trying to put some additional finishing touches on my PT Boat Tender diorama; which I should have done much earlier, this year.
There's a chance that my USS Oyster Bay could show up in a book about PT Boats. That is a wonderful and flattering opportunity.
Re: Diorama - 1/700 USS Ajax AR-6 & Knox FFs
Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 12:39 am
by mabmanu
Very nice work ...

Re: Diorama - 1/700 USS Ajax AR-6 & Knox FFs
Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 12:43 am
by NukeMM
mabmanu wrote:Very nice work ...

Merci! Merci! Monsieur mabmanu!
Re: Diorama - 1/700 USS Ajax AR-6 & Knox FFs
Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 10:23 pm
by NukeMM
Re: Diorama - 1/700 USS Ajax AR-6 & Knox FFs
Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 5:41 am
by pingjockey
Looking great Carl! I was wondering what was going on with this diorama.
Re: Diorama - 1/700 USS Ajax AR-6 & Knox FFs
Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 6:25 am
by D-Boy
pingjockey wrote:Looking great Carl! I was wondering what was going on with this diorama.
Nice to see such detailed photos and progress. Inspiring build for me (too), Carl.
D-Boy
Re: Diorama - 1/700 USS Ajax AR-6 & Knox FFs
Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 10:23 pm
by NukeMM
Re: Diorama - 1/700 USS Ajax AR-6 & Knox FFs
Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 11:05 pm
by gtbred
nice work Carl!

Re: Diorama - 1/700 USS Ajax AR-6 & Knox FFs
Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 9:46 am
by Russ2146
Carl,
Did you use a gel CA on the mast construction?