Hi all,
@Sutho, your Ark Royal looks great!!
Regarding the aircrafts, how would you rate the accuracy and detail of the Fairey Albacore included in the kit? I am currently scratch-building a 1/350 scale model of the HMS Lion battleship 1938 and in the plans drawings from National Maritime Museum, this particular battleship would have carried the floatplane version of Fairey Albacore. Modification to make it a floatplane using the kit's Albacore as a basis is rather simple. So, I would love to know and decide whether I should possibly get an unused aircraft from the kit or a resin copy of it from some kind gents on this board or not.
Aop Aur wrote:Hi all,
@Sutho, your Ark Royal looks great!!
Regarding the aircrafts, how would you rate the accuracy and detail of the Fairey Albacore included in the kit? I am currently scratch-building a 1/350 scale model of the HMS Lion battleship 1938 and in the plans drawings from National Maritime Museum, this particular battleship would have carried the floatplane version of Fairey Albacore. Modification to make it a floatplane using the kit's Albacore as a basis is rather simple. So, I would love to know and decide whether I should possibly get an unused aircraft from the kit or a resin copy of it from some kind gents on this board or not.
Thanks!!
Aop.
Edit: I now know there is no Albacore on board the ship. I misunderstood some texts on wikipedia, sorry!
After a bit of a learning curve, I've finally got a sample I am confident is representative of Admiralty Pattern 631 Bronze Grey.
There was more to it than I first thought, but I've learned a bit about how RN paints were made in the process.
We have added this to the colour range now.
Thanks its a lot darker than my one I mixed as I expected. Lucky I did not glue the parts on and applied it thinly to use as an undercoat. Just out of curiosity how does your new colour compare to your existing stock of G20 Medium grey green which you have had for some time?
After a bit of a learning curve, I've finally got a sample I am confident is representative of Admiralty Pattern 631 Bronze Grey.
There was more to it than I first thought, but I've learned a bit about how RN paints were made in the process.
We have added this to the colour range now.
Thanks its a lot darker than my one I mixed as I expected. Lucky I did not glue the parts on and applied it thinly to use as an undercoat. Just out of curiosity how does your new colour compare to your existing stock of G20 Medium grey green which you have had for some time?
Hi,
The G20 is a bit lighter - similar to your mix infact.
Jack G wrote:Great work Sutho. It seems the Ark pre-order on HLJ keeps getting delayed month after month, June now...
A question from a fellow Aussie - with no colourcoats, or paint chip charts: AP507B, is Tamiya XF66 Light Grey anywhere near it? In some of the colour footage you can see of Hood and other RN ships, it looks similarly dark and blue-tinged; yet on some of the models finished on the net, the paint looks like a much lighter bluey grey. Is this scale effect? Which is most accurate?
Colourcoats being stocked again in Oz would be a total blessing, can Sovereign advise where these might be available?
The Tamiya XF66 is nothing like the old WEM tim now Sovereign Hobbies Colour coats.
According to the experts the colour coat range for 507B is not in dispute unlike B5 so if you can get your hands on the paint it may help. it definitely does have a blue tint to it.
I do have some old tins that are empty that I kept with the colour lid if you would like them sent to you to try and match up your own colour I could send.
I am down to my last tin of 507B now and only have half a tin left so am not that well stocked up in it.
Regarding Tamiya I believe their dark grey looked close to 507A which is used for decks. It was different by negligible.
A couple of weeks ago we dispatched around a thousand tins of Colourcoats to Creative Models Australia. I'm not sure whether they've arrived yet but they'll be back on sale in the southern hemisphere imminently.
I'm not discussing the Merit kit. My question concerned the 1/700 Aoshima kit and White Ensign PE. Didn't mean to confuse you - is there another thread just for 1/700 Arc Royals??
In David Hobb's British Aircraft Carriers book, it's described that Ark Royal has funny arrangement for the 3 lifts where each only serviced one deck. Now there's only 2 hanger decks but 3 lifts so don't know how this 'each' can be allocated. It also describes how one lift is used to move aircraft from lower hanger to upper hanger and another used to move aircraft from upper hanger to the flight deck. Now there are 3 lifts obviously visible on flightdeck - is this only a procedural rather than structural? (unless of course, out of the 3 lifts, only some can go down to the lower hanger?) It's not obvious to me why this arrangement if some of the lifts can operate all the way from lower hanger to flight deck..
Each of ARK ROYAL's three lifts had two platforms in the same lift shaft; one would travel between lower hangar and upper hangar, the other between upper hangar and flight deck. This meant that only one hole in the decks would be open at any given time, hydraulic rams could drive the lift directly for the shorter travel rather than a more complicated arrangement of wires and pulleys.
I noticed amongst some of the photos from Telford (http://www.modellmarine.de/index.php?op ... &Itemid=55) Tetra Model Works is bring out a PE set for Merit's 1/350 HMS Ark Royal priced at GBP134. Look for pic #79. Cannot find any mention of it on Tetra's website though but there is listed 1/350 Royal Navy Fleet Aircraft Set 1(Swordfish, Fulmar MK1, Blackburn Skus) for Merit http://www.tetramodel.co.kr/index.php/s ... for-merit/
I'm approaching the end of my Merit International 1/350 build of HMS Ark Royal, and have a rather simple (and possibly naive) question about the liferafts. The painting instructions in the kit state that the centers should be tan and the oval rims "tire black", but virtually all the photos I've seen of the ship seem to show gray liferafts, at least for the rims. Would these be the same color as the adjacent hull? What about the "tan" centers -- also incorrect? Thanks for your time and knowledge.
I'm approaching the end of my Merit International 1/350 build of HMS Ark Royal, and have a rather simple (and possibly naive) question about the liferafts. The painting instructions in the kit state that the centers should be tan and the oval rims "tire black", but virtually all the photos I've seen of the ship seem to show gray liferafts, at least for the rims. Would these be the same color as the adjacent hull? What about the "tan" centers -- also incorrect? Thanks for your time and knowledge.
Bob Apfelzweig
I am back from holidays and only saw this now. I did not see any photos with a different shade either. Besides they are easy to paint over if they are wrong. I am feeling a little let down now with the new photo etch kits coming out for this kit. I feel some replacement parts are just overkill and totally not necessary but I would like to fix up the island structure and cranes. Incidentally I have darkened my flight deck since I presented it here as I felt it was not quite right. I did not glue the parts on leaving it easy to paint over if necessary.
