1/144 Kiev by Dave Wooley

[Admhawk]

Dave,

Everybody on here is complimenting you on your scratch building and attention to detail, and rightly so!!

However, I'd like to point out that your use of the camera and willingness to post detailed build reports is amazing!!! I doubt many realize just how awkward and time consuming this process is. It doubles or triples your normal build time and your dedication to sharing your build is Fantastic!!

THANK YOU and WELL DONE!!!!



Darren

[ARH]

Dave,

Everybody on here is complimenting you on your scratch building and attention to detail, and rightly so!!

However, I'd like to point out that your use of the camera and willingness to post detailed build reports is amazing!!! I doubt many realize just how awkward and time consuming this process is. It doubles or triples your normal build time and your dedication to sharing your build is Fantastic!!

THANK YOU and WELL DONE!!!!



Darren

I have been saying the same thing for the last 10 years, well done dave.

[Dave Wooley]

Dave,

Everybody on here is complimenting you on your scratch building and attention to detail, and rightly so!!

However, I'd like to point out that your use of the camera and willingness to post detailed build reports is amazing!!! I doubt many realize just how awkward and time consuming this process is. It doubles or triples your normal build time and your dedication to sharing your build is Fantastic!!

THANK YOU and WELL DONE!!!!



Darren

Thank you Darren your comments are much appreciated. I try to make the exercise simple. On the premise that if I can do it then any one can .Yet I'll not gloss over the fact that generating parts with out formal or accurate drawings requires thought but the problems are far from insurmountable . It's been really enjoyable posting up these images on the Kiev build and to be quite frank I never thought the project would take so long.
Dave Wooley: thumbs_up_1::wave_1:

[Dave Wooley]

Dave,

Everybody on here is complimenting you on your scratch building and attention to detail, and rightly so!!

However, I'd like to point out that your use of the camera and willingness to post detailed build reports is amazing!!! I doubt many realize just how awkward and time consuming this process is. It doubles or triples your normal build time and your dedication to sharing your build is Fantastic!!

THANK YOU and WELL DONE!!!!



Darren

I have been saying the same thing for the last 10 years, well done dave.

Hi Ron Thanks for all your support over the years of this build . Your personal encouragement means a lot to me . You took time to show me the method of presenting models in scratch build and as any attentive pupil I followed and learned from the MASTER .
Dave Wooley

[Dave Wooley]

Nice work Dave. Glad to see that your Christmas has been well spent.

Happy new year. May it bring lots of fine details to your build.

Thanks Northsea "The more I see the more I want to add " I'll have to stop some time !!!
Dave Wooley

[Dave Wooley]

Looks great ! It's all in the details .

Hi Richard Good to hear from you . I just get so involed in the detail !!!!
Dave Wooley

[Dave Wooley]

As mentioned previously Kiev has two single fuel receivers and a double unit .
The double fuel receiver set up on .Kiev is the same as that fitted to the one shown here on Minsk { photo from Travelling Man }

A rough sketch is the first job . With this I can determine how to retro �engineer { pretentious word } but that�s what needs to be done in order to gain some idea of the basic parts that make up the refueling unit . The drawing is not accurate but it serves its purpose.

Essentially there are 34 parts that will make this duel fuel receiver unit . Using the sketch and the method explained earlier for assessing scale each one of the components have been made to 1:144 . Hopefully they will all fit together with out much trouble. I�ll soon find out!

Mounted over the top of each receiver / nozzle is a set of rollers .Its would be very difficult to achieve the shape as shown in the photo so I�ve settled for a simple section of brass tube with .31mm nickel silver wire inserted . These where sourced from Albion Alloys in the UK .

Dave Wooley more to come.

[Dave Wooley]

The first step is to assemble the strong point and receiver assembly
The strips of styrene are in effect spacers that will also provide support for the receiver assembly


The two sides are joined together.

This is followed by assembling the back plate that allows the receiver rig to slew in an arc. This can be fixed in the outward position or allowed to move.

All the individual parts thus far.

The next step is to marry the back plate with the receiver assembly. If all is lined up there should be no problem sliding the linkage pin through each of the flanges, and with a sigh of relief it all fits.


On this rig there is a slight difference not just in the length of the frames that link each receiver to the receiver assembly but on the height of the side flanges. On the real assembly these are forged castings . A certain modeller�s license comes into play to compensate for these technical differences. In other words I�ve used strips of litho to form these �cast� sections that fit to the sides of each receiver. These are critical as their height determines the position of each receiver nozzle on the rig.

Extended lengths

Short lengths

Each end of the frame work on the receiver assembly is blanked off with a strip of styrene. This makes for a firmer connection to the remainder of the �U� frame that will be connected to the sides of the receiver nozzles.

Will it all fit? That�s the question .
Dave Wooley More to come.

[Neptune]

I'm pretty sure it will fit Haven't seen anything that doesn't fit from your hands after all !!!!

Great job on all these small fittings! I'm pretty happy that I started this topic a few years back, I guess it's a lot higher in quality and usefulness than I expected back then (certainly since I didn't really intend to make any large scale builds, or did I? )
I hope to see this ship in real once it's finished!

[boatman]

BOY OH BOY Dave all those v-tiny fittins havnt you ever been holdin a bit in twezzers an watched it fly out of them as this happend to me an i would give up an i am amazed at how you hold them to make them you truly are a master builder im glad nimitz hasnt got such small parts
VERY WELL DONE ON THIS BUILD DAVE
chris

[johndon]

Once again Dave, you make it look so simple

Do you have any idea how many individual parts you'll have used by the time you are finished?

John

[Dave Wooley]

I'm pretty sure it will fit Haven't seen anything that doesn't fit from your hands after all !!!!

Great job on all these small fittings! I'm pretty happy that I started this topic a few years back, I guess it's a lot higher in quality and usefulness than I expected back then (certainly since I didn't really intend to make any large scale builds, or did I? )
I hope to see this ship in real once it's finished!

Hi Roel Good to hear from you . Yes you started the ball rolling by persuading me to start a thread on a ship , called Kiev . Now that was way back in 06 would you believe . Kiev has been a sort of naval "pandoras box" one that I really didn't mind opening . As for seeing Kiev for real well I have some news on that front !!!
Dave Wooley

[Bill Waldorf]

Well, once again you have gone over the edge!! The attention to all these smaller details aboard this ship is really quite amazing. Your hand to eye co-ordination is second to none. And to do all these fabulous things from mere photos is a real testament to your abilities. Allow me to pick up my teeth from the floor. You have managed to take our scratchbuilding forum to the next level. Topping what you have already done would be difficult. I must say that I am really quite impressed with your work here. I feel like I am merly dabbling after viewing your efforts. I look forward to seeing the Kiev completed. It will surely be a sight to behold. I'd like to wish you all the best in the New Year. Your continuing devotion to these projects and your skills inspire all of us, I have no doubt on that. Very well done, my friend. You are truly a Master Craftsman, out of the realm of mere model building. Anyone can build a kit. Not many reach the pinnacle you have. I continue to be inspired. Bill Waldorf............

[Dave Wooley]

BOY OH BOY Dave all those v-tiny fittins havnt you ever been holdin a bit in twezzers an watched it fly out of them as this happend to me an i would give up an i am amazed at how you hold them to make them you truly are a master builder im glad nimitz hasnt got such small parts
VERY WELL DONE ON THIS BUILD DAVE
chris

Hi Chris Thank you . Compared to many of the models featured on MW , even the smallest items on Kiev are gigantic when placed along side a build of say 1:700 . But viewing it from another perspective the larger the scale the more detail needs to be incorporated into an individual part . Your Nimitz is an education in scratch building at many different levels that I can only dream about.
Dave Wooley

[Dave Wooley]

Once again Dave, you make it look so simple

Do you have any idea how many individual parts you'll have used by the time you are finished?

John

Hi John Good to hear from you. If I can make it look simple then I know I have succeeded. Ah the 64000$ question as to the number of individual parts, the straight answer is I really don't know but it must run into a few thousand. I guess if I really thought about it I'd frighten myself.
Dave Wooley

[Dave Wooley]

Well, once again you have gone over the edge!! The attention to all these smaller details aboard this ship is really quite amazing. Your hand to eye co-ordination is second to none. And to do all these fabulous things from mere photos is a real testament to your abilities. Allow me to pick up my teeth from the floor. You have managed to take our scratchbuilding forum to the next level. Topping what you have already done would be difficult. I must say that I am really quite impressed with your work here. I feel like I am merly dabbling after viewing your efforts. I look forward to seeing the Kiev completed. It will surely be a sight to behold. I'd like to wish you all the best in the New Year. Your continuing devotion to these projects and your skills inspire all of us, I have no doubt on that. Very well done, my friend. You are truly a Master Craftsman, out of the realm of mere model building. Anyone can build a kit. Not many reach the pinnacle you have. I continue to be inspired. Bill Waldorf............

Hi Bill Always good to hear from you and I always appreciate your encouraging words. Over time I have observed and learned much from your builds. I guess it's good never to loose sight of the simple adage , we never stop learning. You have developed a genuine technique that few can match with a unique ability to instill the breath of life into a static model at a large scale .It truly amazes me how you achieve these results whilst maintaining scale integrity . I have seen models with figures , I have seen figures with models but I can honestly state that I have never seen a large scale model looking as truly authentic as yours . This is why I look and learn. I am convinced we all have the capacity to develop a creative skill and some the ability to take that creative skill to the highest level you my friend have done both.
Dave Wooley

[Bill Waldorf]

Dave, Thanks for the reply and the kind words. When all else fails, I can depend on you to be looking and always posting your thoughts, as well as others here on MW. I guess you might say we are "two peas in a pod", so to speak. Wish we were closer and not a wide ocean in between. It would really be great to have a brew and talk shop together. And so it is. I'll keep watching you, and you keep watching me. What a team we could make! How about a dream team? Who would you pick? Just a thought. Don't want to clutter your thread with unrelated conversation. Once again, amazing job on the Kiev..............

[roy allen]

As an ex matelot, i really like the R.A.S. gear Dave
detailed and sharp, what i like about your builds is the way you show of the sketch work invovled during the planning stages for even the smallest items.

Roy

[Dave Wooley]

As an ex matelot, i really like the R.A.S. gear Dave
detailed and sharp, what i like about your builds is the way you show of the sketch work invovled during the planning stages for even the smallest items.

Roy

Hi Roy Glad you liked the RAS gear ,I would think the whole operation is a rather hair raising task at any time. I know there were a number on this board that expressed interest into how I arrive at the position of all the parts ready for assembly in a number of these mini builds . I hope that by showing the intermediate prep work it might shed some more light on to the whole process , even though it can not compare with the superb CAD presentations I see on this board which I will be the first to admit are beyond me. Thanks once again for your interest.
Dave Wooley

[Dave Wooley]

Just to give some idea of the method used for Re-fuelling at sea
This picture shows the IN Ranvir undergoing a RAS.

Jackstay refueling rig . Seen here is the Jackstay with the hose and probe suspended from it with the jackstay secured to a strong point above the probe receiver . The probe moves down the jackstay until it enters the receiver .

The Minsk preparing for a RAS .

The prepered parts thus far


Continuing with the this mini build, the next job was to fit the two receivers commencing with the lower one of the two .

Whilst I was waiting for that part of the assembly to set attention was turned to making the rests above the receivers for the hose line and fitting these , first to the single receiver rig .
The material of choice was sourced from Albion Alloys. This company really does live up to its own hype and producing some of the finest nickel silver and brass tubing I�ve ever come across . Here is two examples of the materials used to make each of the rests .

The brass tubing was cut to a length that was just short of the OD of the receiver . The length of wire over size to allow for the double bends that feed from the side of the receiver , up and forward to finish above the dish of the bell mouth .

Some care needs to be taken using this type of wire it is very fine indeed.

The net result on a single receiver rig. On the original these are split forming what looks like two cones , not impossible to make but I opted for the simpler of the two choices. I really did chicken out on that one!!

With the lower of the two receivers set the upper could be fitted into place.

And finally installing to two rests above each receiver . I like it when a plan comes together now I can exhale .

All of the fittings so far produced associated with the RAS gear, including the six platforms , two each side which will be positioned below each Rig .

The double receiver rig painted

Of course this little story doesn�t end at this juncture , now the task of fitting all the parts into place . sounds simple well maybe we shall see next time.
Dave Wooley more to come .