USS England

[ArizonaBB39]

Fantastic!

[J. Aguilar]

fine job in England, very nice.



JAM

[Harpy]

Thanks for kind the words and encouragement. I finally recieved L'Arsenal's 26' Whale Boat. It is nicely rendered and is a small kit all by itself. They come as a 4 pack.


One built. I used the optional front deck pe piece and the bench seats give it nice depth.


Lightly primed - It comes with a little brass prop that will added when everything is painted and set.


Thought it would be easier to attach it to the pe pulley system off the ship. I had to compromise since the pe wasn't designed for the launch, you can see the pulleys are not centered. In order to get it to sit right on the ship I had to lengthen the Davits about 2mm and ditched the original mounting holes. There are probably much better ways to skin this cat.


Mounted


Reverse side. On the big cable reel on bottom right I added a third wheel inside.

[sgtryan13]

Very very nice! I love the attention to detail, and very crisp and clean PE work. Keep it up!

[Russ2146]

It pains me to say this but, I think the problem is with the L'Arsenal boat. The aft end of the boat, the flat part that sticks out and has the rudder attached to it, is much, much too big, which makes the whaleboat too long.

Check out the Slater's http://hnsa.org/conf2004/papers/rizzuto.htm
and
http://www.ussslater.org/tour/decks/sup ... tdeck.html

And the Navy's boat catalog http://www.hnsa.org/doc/boatcat/cat-0023.htm

As you can see from the photos, the boat hangs well clear of the vertical prtion of the davits.

[Harpy]

Good catch Russ. The launch also a little wider and deeper than the kit part too. I think you could cut off the back entirely and recarve the prop cut out and be a little more in the ball park.


Aft snipped, could probably use less stand-off on the rudder too. Don't if I am going to rework or not. Wish I had posted before I mounted it.

[codythecatt]

Looking MUCH better!

[Russ2146]

Harpy,
Note that in the real world, the rudder/tiller assembly lifts straight up, freeing the pins on the rudder from the other halves of the hinges which are on the boat. So when the boat is stowed inboard, or outboard as a ready life boat, the rudder and tiller is in the rear cockpit. The last thing the coxswain does when the boat is hoisted out of the water is stow the rudder. The first thing he does before the boat is lowered is to seat the rudder. I don't think you could maneuver the boat and davits to swing the boat outboard if the rudder was seated. More modern versions of the whaleboat went to a rudder and helm configuration, per the Catalog of Boats.

Now, has Cody the Cat figured out how the boat and davits are changed from inboard to outboard and back again??

[Harpy]

Ah, that makes sense, I was wondering how that was supose to clear. Still off, but rudder is moved in. Cut the bottom bar off the railing and tappered it. Still need to trim rudder or snap if off and stow it. Guess I'll revisit and maybe try and figure out to center the pulleys too. Would it be a different color at the water line if if was camoed like the ship? Thanks for all that good info, it's fun to learn about the different systems.

[codythecatt]

Now, has Cody the Cat figured out how the boat and davits are changed from inboard to outboard and back again??

Hah! A poser!

I have a hard enough time finding the litter box ...
... but I can figure it out.

A davit (1) remains stationary with the pulleys/lines slacked. The other davit (2) w/lines taut is rotated toward Davit (1) until the end of the launch clears the vertical line of davit and the arm of the davit (2) is aligned amidship. At this point the lines on davit (2) are loosened and the lines on davit (1) are drawn up. Davit (2) is now rotated in the same direction as before while Davit (1) is rotated in the counter direction toward davit (2). This will shove the end of the launch outboard while at the same time drawing the other end eventually outboard. In the end both davits will assume a position 180 deg from their starting position.

or something like that ... not sure how the working of the lines would actually function

Hah! Easy-peasy!

[Russ2146]

During the war, the paint job matched the paint of the background it was seen against, so no different below waterline of boat.

Have you noticed that the model shows no way to get from the pilot house level to the open bridge?

The answer is in the Osmus Booklet of General Plans on the HNSA site, among others

[Harpy]

Here is a little revision to the Whale Boat. It is centered and higher up on Davits which looks a little closer to the pictures in height and in the position of the 2nd deck that it over hangs. Tail of boat trimmed, but I left the rudder on instead of stowed in the boat. Top still needs the Deck Blue.



My growing Navy.

[ArizonaBB39]

Excellent work!

[PetrolGator]

Love this little ship. Excellent job.

[Harpy]

I had a lot issues installing the railing. The bow section, especially, was my Waterloo. Fortunately, the GMM pe set came with the standard and netted railings. I totally destroyed the standard, but it gave me time to figure out a technique. I installed them prepainted and there some touch up is needed where the tweezers grasped it too hard.


Had to cut out around anchor buldge (too much cut) and trim down the sides of the chocks before it would fit.

[Harpy]

Some of the rigging started; using Polyester "Transparent" thread. It will shrink some but it is easy to melt. I found using incense worked well as opposed to a match ember. I have also managed to break a lot of things, especially the 20mm's. I am going to try to do as little rigging as possible, see where things sit, and adjust and tighten. Removed the moulded on plastic on flag mast and replaced it with .02 Stainless.






If any looks goofy let me know - heading to the point of no return.

[Crazer]

Beautiful work, clean and crisp. The rigging looks good, will you tighten it some more? It might benefit a bit from being more taut, but certainly it's acceptable as is! The cable reels in particular stand out, many modelers seem to put in a painted piece of styrene rod and call it good. Yours are quite excellent. Keep up the good work!

[PetrolGator]

Your build is spectacular. I've been at this eight months and can't do it as well.