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Re: Taking on the 1/200 Missouri...

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:03 pm
by Fliger747
Jason:

You are making good progress. The waterway along the edge of the main deck is an important visual feature. I am trying to come up with a good way to add the slight roll at the top of the shell plating, I have a waterway constructed, but turning my flush with the sides top to one with a slight roll/bead is proving interesting. Thought of using a thread etc and glue it to the top but haven't worked out an accurate way to do it as yet. An important, if subtile hull detail.

sprue might be OK if one could get the right diameter, or wire?

Cheers. Tom

Re: Taking on the 1/200 Missouri...

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 11:21 am
by Channell
Fliger747 wrote:Jason:

You are making good progress. The waterway along the edge of the main deck is an important visual feature. I am trying to come up with a good way to add the slight roll at the top of the shell plating, I have a waterway constructed, but turning my flush with the sides top to one with a slight roll/bead is proving interesting. Thought of using a thread etc and glue it to the top but haven't worked out an accurate way to do it as yet. An important, if subtile hull detail.

sprue might be OK if one could get the right diameter, or wire?

Cheers. Tom
I used .020 evergreen round stock to do mine. It's very slightly oversized and a PITA to get on but it migh be perfect for your 1/192 build. Just a thought anyway. Brass wire might work well too, but it would be expensive.

Re: Taking on the 1/200 Missouri...

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 11:49 am
by Goodwood
...and a real PITA to attach.

I'm with Jason; slightly overscale it may be, but stock plastic rod certainly go on with much less fuss if you take your time.

Re: Taking on the 1/200 Missouri...

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 1:18 pm
by Fliger747
Sometimes things become a matter of local supply as the nearest hobby type store is about 400 miles way. The K&S brass wire is available and probably not any worse than the unavailable styrene cost wise. Yes a PITA to attach, will try taping in position here and there and spot gluing and proceed from there. Looking forward to seeing how yours comes out!

Cheers. Tom

Re: Taking on the 1/200 Missouri...

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 6:56 pm
by anyahajobuzi
Whoaa! I must've dropped into some professional league of BB-s!
I hope I won't get kicked out for being a flattop fan....

It is great to see you touching plastic again, Jason!!! Sorry to hear about your moving accidents.... Now I guess you can build this beast and then your house around it! :big_grin:
This should be an impressive build! You were already looking at things I wouldn't even have noticed! Love that attention to detail!
I will be following.

All the best wishes with this monster!


Cheers: Laci

Re: Taking on the 1/200 Missouri...

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 1:45 am
by youngtiger1
It nice to see this being build because I'm thinking about grabbing this kit as well. Btw, you're a mad man cutting up an expensive kit, but your work looks awesome and it will be a great waterline ship. Since it is a waterline now and not going back then are you going to display it in a water setting? Well, your doing great and a must follow. So, keep up the good work. :thumbs_up_1:

Mike

Re: Taking on the 1/200 Missouri...

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:28 pm
by Channell
anyahajobuzi wrote:Whoaa! I must've dropped into some professional league of BB-s!
I hope I won't get kicked out for being a flattop fan....

It is great to see you touching plastic again, Jason!!! Sorry to hear about your moving accidents.... Now I guess you can build this beast and then your house around it! :big_grin:
This should be an impressive build! You were already looking at things I wouldn't even have noticed! Love that attention to detail!
I will be following.

All the best wishes with this monster!


Cheers: Laci
A CV builder... we have ways of dealing with those :wink_3.gif ...

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...But that's because only because the flattop club here consistently sets the bar too high for battleship builders to have any hope of matching up. :worship_1: I'll give it my best shot though!

Re: Taking on the 1/200 Missouri...

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:42 pm
by Channell
youngtiger1 wrote:It nice to see this being build because I'm thinking about grabbing this kit as well. Btw, you're a mad man cutting up an expensive kit, but your work looks awesome and it will be a great waterline ship. Since it is a waterline now and not going back then are you going to display it in a water setting? Well, your doing great and a must follow. So, keep up the good work. :thumbs_up_1:

Mike
I can't say it wasn't scary to start cutting!

I do plan on trying a seascape scene; I want to do the Missouri at anchor with some smaller boats in the water. I'm debating on whether to include my 1/200 Gato but I can't find any historical evidence of a Gato being parked next to the Missouri so I might bag it and just do them seperately. I wish there was a 1/200 Fletcher kit out on the market!

Last night I spent several hours carefully reshaping and attaching the bow 20mm gun platform; turns out the kit platform is badly misshapen and needed lots of work. The center hawsepipe is too low for my kit as well now that I've raised the level of the hull edge by .050" and will need some work. I'll get some pics up when I'm further along.

Re: Taking on the 1/200 Missouri...

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:20 pm
by Fliger747
damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!

Cheers. T

Re: Taking on the 1/200 Missouri...

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:54 pm
by Goodwood
Channell wrote:
youngtiger1 wrote:It nice to see this being build because I'm thinking about grabbing this kit as well. Btw, you're a mad man cutting up an expensive kit, but your work looks awesome and it will be a great waterline ship. Since it is a waterline now and not going back then are you going to display it in a water setting? Well, your doing great and a must follow. So, keep up the good work. :thumbs_up_1:

Mike
I can't say it wasn't scary to start cutting!

I do plan on trying a seascape scene; I want to do the Missouri at anchor with some smaller boats in the water. I'm debating on whether to include my 1/200 Gato but I can't find any historical evidence of a Gato being parked next to the Missouri so I might bag it and just do them seperately. I wish there was a 1/200 Fletcher kit out on the market!

Last night I spent several hours carefully reshaping and attaching the bow 20mm gun platform; turns out the kit platform is badly misshapen and needed lots of work. The center hawsepipe is too low for my kit as well now that I've raised the level of the hull edge by .050" and will need some work. I'll get some pics up when I'm further along.
You could always make up a scene.

Let's say this is just after the Missouri was struck by that kamikaze Zeke from the famous photograph. For the purposes of this diorama, one or more of the battleship's crew was thrown overboard and later picked up by this Gato-class fleet boat. So then, this is the sub returning the lost crewmembers back to where they belong (I mean, what battleship man wants to be stuck underwater in a tin fish?).

Re: Taking on the 1/200 Missouri...

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:28 pm
by kylewoody
I see a challenge now with two 200th Iowa's getting built! :big_grin: This is great, I'm grabbin the popcorn... :yeah:

Kyle

Re: Taking on the 1/200 Missouri...

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:54 pm
by Channell
kylewoody wrote:I see a challenge now with two 200th Iowa's getting built! :big_grin: This is great, I'm grabbin the popcorn... :yeah:

Kyle
My new diorama? :eyes_spinning:

http://navsource.org/archives/01/061/016304c.jpg

Re: Taking on the 1/200 Missouri...

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:25 pm
by Cliffy B
Channell wrote:
kylewoody wrote:I see a challenge now with two 200th Iowa's getting built! :big_grin: This is great, I'm grabbin the popcorn... :yeah:

Kyle
My new diorama? :eyes_spinning:

http://navsource.org/archives/01/061/016304c.jpg
Where's your ambition?! :big_grin:

http://www.navsource.org/archives/01/0164012.jpg

Re: Taking on the 1/200 Missouri...

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 6:53 pm
by Fliger747
Though my project is a scratch in 1:192 and started long before the kit became available, I am learning a lot here. For those building the kit perhaps it will make everyone aware of a number of issues that at an early stage are correctable for a more accurate model. Certainly a beautiful ship can be made with the kit and some of the available aftermarket parts, but those wanting something more can have a truly superb model with some modification. Those kit bashing this for another time in its life are most likely to achieve this as modification is necessary anyway.

Cheers to all. Tom

Re: Taking on the 1/200 Missouri...

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 7:05 pm
by Channell
I've spent quite a bit of time cleaning up the hull and also reshaped and installed the 20mm gun tub on the bow. I still need to work on the center hawsepipe as it appears to be too low; the top of it should almost intersect the rounded beadline. I also put short sections of brass pipe in the discharge drains along the waterline.

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As usual there is yet more cleanup to do... next I am going to add the gusset plates. I am going to attempt to replicate the horizontal plate lines along the bow and stern with paint; more to come!

Re: Taking on the 1/200 Missouri...

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 1:39 pm
by Fliger747
I once used the paint method to replicate plate lines on my CB1, worked pretty well if you use some sort of high build primer. Certainly a subtile effect. A lot easier task on the waterline model. On the hull sides the upper gusseted plates are 25# sts for splinter protection. Below that the smooth 60# plate was used for de capping incoming projectiles before they reached the main armor belt. The same reason the main deck below the wood was a heavier plate. It was called a bomb deck and was to keep out GP munitions and hopefully also help defeat AP bombs and shells. It's thickness was 1.5" of STs plate.

Cheers. T

Re: Taking on the 1/200 Missouri...

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:38 pm
by Channell
I didn't manage to get as much done on the Missouri as I wanted to, mostly because I'm working on a 1'/1' scale dollhouse for my wife. :faint:

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I did manage to get the display base going, however:

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I will do a seascape but honestly this is unexplored territory for me as I've never done one before in this scale. For that reason I'll probably keep it simple and do the 'Mo at anchor... probably during one of her stopovers at Ulithi in early '45. Maybe I'll do a 1/200 scale Mog Mog island after I retire in 30 years to match. :big_grin:

Re: Taking on the 1/200 Missouri...

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:49 pm
by kylewoody
Haha, looks like both projects are coming along! Resting at anchor is always a cool look though, plus you can have more details scattered around the deck too ( things like WT doors open, access ropes out, etc)

Kyle

Re: Taking on the 1/200 Missouri...

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 7:32 pm
by Goodwood
kylewoody wrote:Haha, looks like both projects are coming along! Resting at anchor is always a cool look though, plus you can have more details scattered around the deck too ( things like WT doors open, access ropes out, etc)

Kyle
This. Oh yes, this. And maybe the recovery of one of the Seahawks after a test flight as well?

Re: Taking on the 1/200 Missouri...

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:49 am
by Fliger747
I resume the white for the dollhouse is a primer and the finish will be measure 32?

Cheers. T