1/144 Jorge Juan (ex USS McGowan)

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Re: 1/144 Jorge Juan (ex USS McGowan)

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Hi all again.

The next step was quite boring as well: doors. There are differences betweenThe Sullivans and Jorge Juan, what means that there are differences among all other Fletchers, probably depending on the shipyard where they were built. It can be clearly seen comparing doors in the same position, here in The Sullivans:
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And in the same position in Jorge Juan :
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There are at least 5 types of door onboard The Sullivans, but as they clearly do not correspond with Jorge Juan, and there is very little info on this one, I have reduced the models to four.

The construction process of these doors is easy, but repeated say 50 times, it is not only time consuming, but also quite more boring than the beams. The elements are made with yoghourt containers for the bulkhead base, and Evergreen and stretched sprue for the rest of the elements:
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Once in position, and even if not painted yet, the effect is superb:
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I hope you like them, and very best regards from Spain,

Willie.[/size]
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Re: 1/144 Jorge Juan (ex USS McGowan)

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And hi all once more.

As a variation from the previous boring steps, the next one was to build the torpedo tubes, something really exciting, in my opinion. I built the Mk.14 model.

There are pictures for the millions, but I was lucky enough to find some excellent graphics and very clear drawings that were of great help. These ones, among many others:
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What the Revell kit offers is quite poor, and has to be almost completely discarded:
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I cut the Revell tubes, and after some processing I could use the pieces corresponding to the spoons and spoon extensions, what certainly saved some work. Then I made the first aditions to the tubes, the reinforcement rings and the basics for the T-guide rail:
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The stand can be used, but as it can be clearly seen it is not correct at all, way too low, and lacking elements, but this is a very easy to solve problem :
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The saddle was not too difficult to build, and took only eleven pieces. The whole lower part of the tubes does not have to be too complicated, as it is going to be virtually invisible, but this scale deserves some attention as well.
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And so, lacking some minor final elements, the full Mk.14 set is at the moment like this :
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So, I hope you like it, and please make all critics that you may consider necessary.

Warmest regards from the North Atlantic,

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Re: 1/144 Jorge Juan (ex USS McGowan)

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Hi all again.

The torpedo tubes are completely finished, and ready to paint. Some details are missing. They could be added, but IMO it would make a plastic mess, and would ruin the overall effect.
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I hope you like it, and warmest regards from these Atlantic shores,

Willie.[/size]
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Willie,

Your efforts on this build is absolutely amazing. A labor of love on your part.

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Re: 1/144 Jorge Juan (ex USS McGowan)

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Hi all,

The next element to be built is the fire director mk.56, a very distinctive element of the modernized Fletchers, and present accordingly onboard Jorge Juan. As it is a standard mk.56, I will be using again as info and reference the pics made onboard USS The Sullivans. This is the mk.56:
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What the kit offers, that in relationship with what has to be built is nothing at all, has accordingly to be discarded in full.

The first thing to be built was the stand, not difficult at all, using an old plane fuel tank to lengthen the drum:
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The mk.56 itself required a bit more attention. I used several blocks made of Evergreen stripes, brought to a rough shape, but a bit too large to allow the refining:
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In order to avoid mistakes I made the adjusting of the measures for the the basic structure using only sandpaper, and once the measures were correct, I could add some other basic elements.
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The rest of the detailing could then be completed:
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As I am planning to apply some shades, and it will need lots of dry brush, I will add the four PE elements at the end of the process.

I hope that meanwhile you like it, and very best regards from this side of the Atlantic,

Willie.[/size]
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Re: 1/144 Jorge Juan (ex USS McGowan)

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Hi there folks,
I am not sure what I am going to build next, so detailing the bridge seemed advisable, as it can be done without much thinking.

I have absolutely nothing at all of Jorge Juan, so I had to use, once more, the stuff I got onboard USS The Sullivans. The process was extremely easy, and it is also a pleasure to see something coming in the shape of a ship.

The bridge:
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The detailing does not have to be overdone, as it will not be very visible when it is closed by the gallery, and --at least for me-- even this big 1/44 scale has got its limits :
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Some other additional details :
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And a general view of what has already been done on the bridge:
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I hope you like it, and very best regards from Spain,

Willie.[/size]
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Re: 1/144 Jorge Juan (ex USS McGowan)

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Oh heck yeah, compadr�, that's plenty of detail in this scale to achieve epic results! If you were insane enough to do, say, a 1/35 scale scratchbuild, that'd be another thing entirely, but that would take years�and frankly, the speed of your efforts in this scale is astounding!

Keep up the awesome work!
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Totally awesome, Willie! This is going to be one gorgeous piece of work. Your scratchbuilding efforts are clean, concise, and perfect for the scale. Keep up the good work.
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Re: 1/144 Jorge Juan (ex USS McGowan)

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Hi there all.

Thanks Rick, Goodwood and Larry for your remarks. Criticism is, of course, also welcome.

Still wondering what to do next, so I decide to fill-in the blank with a beautiful tiny element, the motor winch. Virtually all Fletchers had one of these amidships, most commonly on the port side. USS The Sullivans has got one, of course:
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A quick research in the very few pics that I have got of her shows clearly that Jorge Juan had one too, in the very same position:
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To build one of these was very easy, and it is one of the elements that will give a great dosis of realism to the ship when it is finished. Tiny as it is, this thing has got a surprising grand total of 52 pieces:
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I hope you like it, and very best regards from the North Atlantic,

Willie.[/size]
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Re: 1/144 Jorge Juan (ex USS McGowan)

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Hi all,

Does anybody know where I can find a PE fret of assorted handwheels in scale 1/144, or if necessary in scale 1/200 ? I think I could produce them, but in big numbers and different diameters they would be a refined kind of nightmare.
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TIA, and very best regards,

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Re: 1/144 Jorge Juan (ex USS McGowan)

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Willie,

While these are not the exact scale you requested they might be helpful as they are all different sizes.
http://www.aber.net.pl/detal,24.html set 1
http://www.aber.net.pl/detal,26.html set 2
http://www.nbrasslocos.co.uk/fitbr.html 96 hand wheels, 16 different types. From 1.9 to 3.7mm diam.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Royal-Model-1 ... 1118773518

But in the end it might be more economical to make your own.

Cheers,
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Re: 1/144 Jorge Juan (ex USS McGowan)

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Hi there Todd and all,

Thanks a million for the tip. Aber�s set 1 seems definitely the best option.
I could make my own wheels, as you suggest, as I have already done in the past, but they would not be half as good, and it would be exhausting to produce them in big numbers. After weeks of work on the beams and the doors I prefer to protect my nerves and reserve my scarce abilities for something more productive or funnier.

Thanks again for your precious help, and best regards from this side,

Willie.
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Re: 1/144 Jorge Juan (ex USS McGowan)

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Hi all once again.

The elements I am working in at the moment are the ready use magazine boxes on deck. There are lots of them everywhere, as usual, and in different sizes and shapes, as usual again, and the work is being interesting and funny, but I have a doubt: what are the many "L" shaped clips all around them, and if they are the support for something, does anybody know what are they supporting, and have a picture of it ?
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TIA for your attention and help, and best regards from this side,

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They look like spacers for bolt-on heat radiators, which were rectangular plates. If so, the heat radiators themselves are missing from these boxes.
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Re: 1/144 Jorge Juan (ex USS McGowan)

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Hi there Steve,

Thanks for your answer to my question. I had already thought they should be supports for heat radiators, but as I had never seen ready use magazines without them before I wanted to be sure. Now the things is clear.

Thanks again and very best regards ,

Willie.
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Willie,

I'm following your build as I too will be using the 1/144 Revell FLETCHER kit to build my 1st duty station - USS STODDARD (DD-566) in her 1966-68 ASW configuration. You've done some really nice scratchmodeling on the hull and Fire Control. I will be using the Model Monkey 3D printed parts (he & I have collaborated on a few items recently!) where needed and otherwise I will scratch build (hull openings, for example) also as needed.

It's nice to see another Vet with the same intentions & kit.

Later,

Hank
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Re: 1/144 Jorge Juan (ex USS McGowan)

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Howdy Hank and all,

Glad to know that you find my construction interesting and that you are building this model as well. This 1/144 scale is kind of a dream, and with the help of my USS The Sullivans photo album the construction --even at the most boring stages, such as doors and beams, and soon the oil canning of the hull-- is nothing short of a pleasure.

Regarding your comment...

BB62vet wrote: It's nice to see another Vet with the same intentions & kit.
...I am sorry to disappoint you: I am not a Jorge Juan vet. I served for two years in the Spanish navy, but onboard F73 Catalu�a, a former member of the 31st. Escort Squadron, composed by 5 frigates of Baleares class, the Spanish ASW/AA version of the Knox class. I still dream with this ship. You can have a look here:

http://elcofredewillie.blogspot.com.es/

Nice going in North Carolina, and best wishes from the other side of the pool,

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Willie,

I checked out your link - very nice (although I don't read/speak Spanish, I may get one of our Barcelona engineers to translate for me (I work at Grifols TBI). KNOX class ships are still operating in various navies.

Happy modeling!

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ROYAL CAROLINE (1748) 1:47
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Re: 1/144 Jorge Juan (ex USS McGowan)

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Hi all,

After Photobucket has --apparently-- reversed their politics about extorting ramson money (man, 400 $/ year !!!) from people so that the forum links are active again, I have seen that all my links are back too. I had actually changed some of my pics to Postimages.org only to see them do the very same some months afterwards, so I gave up the updating of the threads.

I cross my fingers so that these incidents do not recur, and accordingly I will try to post some advances in this ship.

Best regards from across the oceans,

Willie.
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Re: 1/144 Jorge Juan (ex USS McGowan)

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Hi all,

The next element was the couple of hedgehogs on either side of the bridge structure. Jorge Juan had two till the very end of her service. Here are the hedgehogs of USS The Sullivans :
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As it can be observed, these hedgehogs are not complete, and the ones of Jorge Juan do no longer exist either, but being a very common weapon, it not difficult to find clear pictures and drawings of the missing elements, this one for example :
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The construction is very simple, made of Evergreen stripes and yogourth containers, first the basic structure ...
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... and then the rest of the elements, also in Evergreen and food container :
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Due to some miscalculation I have no more room for the last 6th. row, but the overall effect is excellent, and I will let it go like this.

Some very minor elements in PE or metal will be added when I find them.

I hope you like it as it is for now, and best regards from this side,

Willie.[/size]
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