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1:350 HMS Repulse 1941
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Re: 1:350 HMS Repulse 1941
I like it!!!
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Re: 1:350 HMS Repulse 1941
Here's the alternative.
It's the GM degaussing cable from the Hood set. unfortunately there is not enough "single" cable to go round.... so as per the Hood I've had to use the "double" cable up forward. This is not inconsistent with photos of Repulse where the cable forward seems much more prominent than that aft.



While this looks rather more pronounced than the wire version, to the naked eye and allowing for the fact that painting will make it less prominent, I think this my be my preferred option,
I'd be interested in what others think??


Andrew
It's the GM degaussing cable from the Hood set. unfortunately there is not enough "single" cable to go round.... so as per the Hood I've had to use the "double" cable up forward. This is not inconsistent with photos of Repulse where the cable forward seems much more prominent than that aft.



While this looks rather more pronounced than the wire version, to the naked eye and allowing for the fact that painting will make it less prominent, I think this my be my preferred option,
I'd be interested in what others think??


Andrew
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Re: 1:350 HMS Repulse 1941
Dear Andrew,
you first alternative with 0.3 rod looks right to me, the PE parts are much to prominent. This compares to Tamiyas 1/700 Repulse degausing cable - see attached photo.
By the way, your Repulse looks good
and I'm looking forward to see some more progress 
you first alternative with 0.3 rod looks right to me, the PE parts are much to prominent. This compares to Tamiyas 1/700 Repulse degausing cable - see attached photo.
By the way, your Repulse looks good
Cheers,
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Re: 1:350 HMS Repulse 1941
Ok, so as Dan suggested.... and using what knowledge is available and using logic based on other ships.... I have used the hood DG cable (modified) on Repulse. Now painted, the effect is I think pretty good.
This has allowed this painting of the hull and some of the sub assemblies.
I've also used the Hood (GMM) engine room vents to add detail to the vent box

The boiler room vents have been added using the GMM Hood skylights. I was only able to do the upper deck as I then ran out of them!

The lower one are not really visible anyway. I've also added "eyebolts" to the funnels to allow for the stays later on.
Apparently the boiler room vents are kept partially open allowing them to be closed in case of fire etc.
The engine room vents from the WEP PE kit are also visible on this photo on the "boat deck"....
These caused a bit of a problem as when the vents are folded along the pre marked lines the boat cradles that go over do not fit and required one of the"legs" to be removed.
The New deck houses are now painted and ready for intallation:


Hopefully you can see the hull plating lines on the lower hull. As in the upper hull these were made by layering with body filler.
It all take soooo much time! might end up divorced if I'm not careful!!
Andrew
This has allowed this painting of the hull and some of the sub assemblies.
I've also used the Hood (GMM) engine room vents to add detail to the vent box

The boiler room vents have been added using the GMM Hood skylights. I was only able to do the upper deck as I then ran out of them!

The lower one are not really visible anyway. I've also added "eyebolts" to the funnels to allow for the stays later on.
Apparently the boiler room vents are kept partially open allowing them to be closed in case of fire etc.
The engine room vents from the WEP PE kit are also visible on this photo on the "boat deck"....
These caused a bit of a problem as when the vents are folded along the pre marked lines the boat cradles that go over do not fit and required one of the"legs" to be removed.
The New deck houses are now painted and ready for intallation:


Hopefully you can see the hull plating lines on the lower hull. As in the upper hull these were made by layering with body filler.
It all take soooo much time! might end up divorced if I'm not careful!!
Andrew
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Re: 1:350 HMS Repulse 1941
A little progress..... though a lot of time!
Here's a view of the DG cable now the hull is painted. The boot cap is quite thick but as far as I can tell it should actually be thicker. A photo in R&R shows it extending up part way up the upper armour.


here's the real thing for comparison.....

The bridge sub assembly is now basically completed....


The navigation light boxes where scratch-built from bits in the GMM PE and the spotting instruments and "pom-pom" directors on the spotting top are Vetran model's IJN units.... not quite right but.....
Extra railing not in the WEP PE was also made up from the GMM PE Hood set. The Lower yards are brass rod tapered in a pin vice.
Andrew
Here's a view of the DG cable now the hull is painted. The boot cap is quite thick but as far as I can tell it should actually be thicker. A photo in R&R shows it extending up part way up the upper armour.


here's the real thing for comparison.....

The bridge sub assembly is now basically completed....


The navigation light boxes where scratch-built from bits in the GMM PE and the spotting instruments and "pom-pom" directors on the spotting top are Vetran model's IJN units.... not quite right but.....
Extra railing not in the WEP PE was also made up from the GMM PE Hood set. The Lower yards are brass rod tapered in a pin vice.
Andrew
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Re: 1:350 HMS Repulse 1941
Looking good Andrew, time and effort well spent.
I still have my fingers crossed for a 1/350 Renown.
I still have my fingers crossed for a 1/350 Renown.
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Re: 1:350 HMS Repulse 1941
Thanks David.
This PE stuff takes up quite a bit of time!
Here's the WEP crane vs the Trumpeter PE crane:

The "motor" is a modified deck winch from the Veteran IJN set.

(painting still to be completed!)
The plans show two benches at the rear of the shelter deck near the gunnery lieutenants cabin.

so here they are:

Now if anyone can help:

The camouflage patter in early 1941 seems to have the starboard deckhouse dark as I have done it. However, later photos seem to show it pained light as per the Port side. The final photos seem to show the hanger area painted light as well.
Does anyone have better resolution photos to help elucidate the correct scheme?
(more photos on "Calling all Repulse fans")
Thanks
Andrew
This PE stuff takes up quite a bit of time!
Here's the WEP crane vs the Trumpeter PE crane:

The "motor" is a modified deck winch from the Veteran IJN set.

(painting still to be completed!)
The plans show two benches at the rear of the shelter deck near the gunnery lieutenants cabin.

so here they are:

Now if anyone can help:

The camouflage patter in early 1941 seems to have the starboard deckhouse dark as I have done it. However, later photos seem to show it pained light as per the Port side. The final photos seem to show the hanger area painted light as well.
Does anyone have better resolution photos to help elucidate the correct scheme?
(more photos on "Calling all Repulse fans")
Thanks
Andrew
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Re: 1:350 HMS Repulse 1941
I hope this build continues to be of interest.....
Thing have been slow for a while as I had to build the display base. I have not done this before but was impressed by Phil's base for his 1938 Repulse so have copied the style using a local hard wood called Jarrah. I have French polished this and added the supports from "O" gauge lumber which has been stained with Jarrah stain and then coated with a water based polyester. Progress was delayed as I could not proceed with the hull until the attachment to the base was sorted.


In the mean time I built the ship's boats. this has been quite learning curve. The WEP PE set has a wealth of detailed parts but is a little scant on information. I have used the HMS Hood" anatomy of the ship" book for details of the boats assuming that they would be of a fairly standard pattern.
During the 1936 refit Repulse substantial changes made to the rear boiler room vents with "boxes" with the boat cradles above. These are not modelled in the Trumpeter kit but are included in WEP PE set.
However!!
1. The WEP instructions do not tell you that the port and starboard cradles are not identical.

The one on the starboard side must be set for the 45 ft Whaler while that for the Port side for the 45 ft fast motor boat. The former in the Trumpeter kit seems rather larger than my ships plans would have it...... and wider than the GMM thwarts would imply......but what does one do? The 16' dingy required considerable "thinning" to enhance its appearance while the 45' fast motor boats required widows and opening up. Components from the GMM and WEP PE sets added considerably to the open boats appearance.
2. The ships plans show that the cradles for the boats in the reverse orientation to the WEP instructions, with the cradle which sits on the side at the side at the rear and the one straddling forward.
If one follow the WEP instruction the boat appear to be too far away from the 35' motor boat in the centre and the outboard boats foul the cranes.
With the orientation reversed, the layout seems much better.



PE props etc are really cool!
(still in dry fit in these photos)
3. Information from other members and photos would indicate that I will need to repaint the starboard deck house light grey and possibly the hanger doors medium grey. Fortunately because of the delays brought about by building the base these are still all in dry fit ....so more painting in order!
WEP have just sent me the "Sea-Master" Barrel set for Repulse which look fantastic. This purchase includes the 0.5" machine gun barrels..... so i will now be able to makeup the missing quad guns for the rear mast using the PE from the Hood GMM set.... The barrels are amazingly small!
The catapult area will require me to scratch build the catapult control area. While this is shown on the plans the information is scant. If anyone has a photo or better info please let me know.
thanks
Andrew
Thing have been slow for a while as I had to build the display base. I have not done this before but was impressed by Phil's base for his 1938 Repulse so have copied the style using a local hard wood called Jarrah. I have French polished this and added the supports from "O" gauge lumber which has been stained with Jarrah stain and then coated with a water based polyester. Progress was delayed as I could not proceed with the hull until the attachment to the base was sorted.


In the mean time I built the ship's boats. this has been quite learning curve. The WEP PE set has a wealth of detailed parts but is a little scant on information. I have used the HMS Hood" anatomy of the ship" book for details of the boats assuming that they would be of a fairly standard pattern.
During the 1936 refit Repulse substantial changes made to the rear boiler room vents with "boxes" with the boat cradles above. These are not modelled in the Trumpeter kit but are included in WEP PE set.
However!!
1. The WEP instructions do not tell you that the port and starboard cradles are not identical.

The one on the starboard side must be set for the 45 ft Whaler while that for the Port side for the 45 ft fast motor boat. The former in the Trumpeter kit seems rather larger than my ships plans would have it...... and wider than the GMM thwarts would imply......but what does one do? The 16' dingy required considerable "thinning" to enhance its appearance while the 45' fast motor boats required widows and opening up. Components from the GMM and WEP PE sets added considerably to the open boats appearance.
2. The ships plans show that the cradles for the boats in the reverse orientation to the WEP instructions, with the cradle which sits on the side at the side at the rear and the one straddling forward.
If one follow the WEP instruction the boat appear to be too far away from the 35' motor boat in the centre and the outboard boats foul the cranes.
With the orientation reversed, the layout seems much better.



PE props etc are really cool!
(still in dry fit in these photos)
3. Information from other members and photos would indicate that I will need to repaint the starboard deck house light grey and possibly the hanger doors medium grey. Fortunately because of the delays brought about by building the base these are still all in dry fit ....so more painting in order!
WEP have just sent me the "Sea-Master" Barrel set for Repulse which look fantastic. This purchase includes the 0.5" machine gun barrels..... so i will now be able to makeup the missing quad guns for the rear mast using the PE from the Hood GMM set.... The barrels are amazingly small!
The catapult area will require me to scratch build the catapult control area. While this is shown on the plans the information is scant. If anyone has a photo or better info please let me know.
thanks
Andrew
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Re: 1:350 HMS Repulse 1941
The Sea-Master barrels have arrived. 4", 0.5", Pom-pom and 15".

The stairs and ladders are in 507B as is the rear turret. I have consulted multiple photos and they and the turret always seem lighter than the other "dark" areas.
I've only installed the 15" guns so far but they look great. The tripods come from the Hood GMM set.
I've had to take a bit of modeller's licence to build the "catapult control station" but the effect t the naked eye is quite pleasing. The camera is a remarkable "critic"! I will have to go back and touch up some painting. Looks fine to the naked eye. But the new vents and ammunition lockers on the rear deck houses didn't come up to badly!

Similarly the enhancements to the Carley floats and the Veteran's models paravanes and deck winches look great.

The ready-use ammunition lockers on the boat deck on the Trumpeter model are moulded almost flush, so the next task is to make new ones.......
The Director has also had the PE treatment. The WEP radar was far better than the Trumpeter version, but still fairly 2D. The GMM one is an order of magnitude better.


Andrew
PS Dan..... I have painted the hanger in 507B as you suggested and repainted the deckhouse light grey as per the last photos.

The stairs and ladders are in 507B as is the rear turret. I have consulted multiple photos and they and the turret always seem lighter than the other "dark" areas.
I've only installed the 15" guns so far but they look great. The tripods come from the Hood GMM set.
I've had to take a bit of modeller's licence to build the "catapult control station" but the effect t the naked eye is quite pleasing. The camera is a remarkable "critic"! I will have to go back and touch up some painting. Looks fine to the naked eye. But the new vents and ammunition lockers on the rear deck houses didn't come up to badly!

Similarly the enhancements to the Carley floats and the Veteran's models paravanes and deck winches look great.

The ready-use ammunition lockers on the boat deck on the Trumpeter model are moulded almost flush, so the next task is to make new ones.......
The Director has also had the PE treatment. The WEP radar was far better than the Trumpeter version, but still fairly 2D. The GMM one is an order of magnitude better.


Andrew
PS Dan..... I have painted the hanger in 507B as you suggested and repainted the deckhouse light grey as per the last photos.
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Re: 1:350 HMS Repulse 1941
Torpedo loading hatches, (not moulded on the model)
Aircraft fuel drain tank
Anchor stowed.

Andrew
Aircraft fuel drain tank
Anchor stowed.

Andrew
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Re: 1:350 HMS Repulse 1941
Looking good!
Jarrah eh...!
Hardest wood I have everte come across--and it does not float!!
Jim Baumann
Jarrah eh...!
Hardest wood I have everte come across--and it does not float!!
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Re: 1:350 HMS Repulse 1941
Thanks Jim,
It is bloody hard but produces a great surface for polishing. Missed out on a Jarrah dinning table many years ago and have regretted it ever since!
Andrew
It is bloody hard but produces a great surface for polishing. Missed out on a Jarrah dinning table many years ago and have regretted it ever since!
Andrew
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Re: 1:350 HMS Repulse 1941
Hi Andrew
I like this Repulse
Realization and painting are very good, very clean
Ciao
Luciano
I like this Repulse
Realization and painting are very good, very clean
Ciao
Luciano
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Re: 1:350 HMS Repulse 1941
Thanks Luciano!
I see that Admiralty Model Works would appear to have their 1:350 upgrade set available!
http://www.admiraltymodelworks.com/inde ... w.tpl.html
too late for me though!
The deck houses would appear to be pretty correct and boats look great in to photo.
They seem to have supplied some extra ammunition boxes, which is great as the 0.5" machine gun ones on the Trumpeter model are too small and the ones on the boat deck are virtually flat. However, there would appear to be only three large ready use lockers for the aft deck houses and my plans and photos would imply four.
It would have been good if they could have added the extra 0.5" vickers guns that are need and some extra Carley floats.
It would appear that there should be many more Carley floats in the "as sunk" version than are supplied in the kit.
I might have to scratch build a few!
Andrew
I see that Admiralty Model Works would appear to have their 1:350 upgrade set available!
http://www.admiraltymodelworks.com/inde ... w.tpl.html
too late for me though!
The deck houses would appear to be pretty correct and boats look great in to photo.
They seem to have supplied some extra ammunition boxes, which is great as the 0.5" machine gun ones on the Trumpeter model are too small and the ones on the boat deck are virtually flat. However, there would appear to be only three large ready use lockers for the aft deck houses and my plans and photos would imply four.
It would have been good if they could have added the extra 0.5" vickers guns that are need and some extra Carley floats.
It would appear that there should be many more Carley floats in the "as sunk" version than are supplied in the kit.
I might have to scratch build a few!
Andrew
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Re: 1:350 HMS Repulse 1941
Hello Andrew,
Great progress so far!!
Mark
Great progress so far!!
Mark
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Re: 1:350 HMS Repulse 1941
Thanks Mark.
Happy christmas to everyone.
A little progress over the festive season:
The barrels are from "Sea-master" and are quite superb. The Pom-pom ones do look almost too fine??

The Pom-poms have come up very nicely. I've used a combination of the WEP and GMM PE sets to get the most accurate version I can

I'm still struggling with semi scratch building the quad 0.5" machine guns...... very fiddly!

Andrew
Happy christmas to everyone.
A little progress over the festive season:
The barrels are from "Sea-master" and are quite superb. The Pom-pom ones do look almost too fine??

The Pom-poms have come up very nicely. I've used a combination of the WEP and GMM PE sets to get the most accurate version I can

I'm still struggling with semi scratch building the quad 0.5" machine guns...... very fiddly!

Andrew
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Re: 1:350 HMS Repulse 1941
AHHHHHH! B!@#$ Trumpeter!!
They have put the gun crew shelter and its associated vents too far aft on the flying deck. It's only a couple of millimetres but with the PE on the Pom-pom it looks silly and fouls the vent:

The forward vent should be much closer to the main mast....
It's too late for me to correct this now so I've re-drilled the Pom pom mount hole aft to improve the appearance.

And of course, the Sea-master pom-pom set comes with 20 barrels..... but you need 24 for Repulse!
Andrew
They have put the gun crew shelter and its associated vents too far aft on the flying deck. It's only a couple of millimetres but with the PE on the Pom-pom it looks silly and fouls the vent:

The forward vent should be much closer to the main mast....
It's too late for me to correct this now so I've re-drilled the Pom pom mount hole aft to improve the appearance.

And of course, the Sea-master pom-pom set comes with 20 barrels..... but you need 24 for Repulse!
Andrew
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Re: 1:350 HMS Repulse 1941
Nice work. Everytime I see this thread, I'm tempted go buy this kit, even thought I already have the Tamiya 1/700 version in the stash!
Martin
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Re: 1:350 HMS Repulse 1941
Outstanding job Andrew !!
Jose
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Re: 1:350 HMS Repulse 1941
This indeed looks great!
Keep up the good work!
Greetings Josse
Keep up the good work!
Greetings Josse
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