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Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 12:07 pm
by ARH
Hi Guys, I like this thead, First of all it takes money and hard work, the hard work is no problem, but money can be, its a small market and publishers do not want to invest in someone they do not know, thats how I published my own book , with the help of the captain. In my research I found out so much about the ship it would have been a shame not to do a book, modellers were writting in to modelboats asking , why there was so little info on this ship, at that time there was only 2 photo,s of BRYONY, I found a book full.
As to size of photos, the minimum size I take is 2 million pixels, all good quality, bar an odd one or two.
I am looking at a CD have started getting all the pics together , I always back them up on a CD in case the computer crashes, there,s a lot of pictures, on this site alone there is 100 just on the decks alone, weeks ago there was 250 at least, It would be a thick book, you would need a truss to carry it. ARH

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 12:10 pm
by kennylibben
Fine with me! NOW GO WRITE THE BOOK!
Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 5:15 pm
by Victorious
Lozza1981 wrote:Simple idea is yes it would be an excellent idea, but it maybe simplier if Ron sublitted the article to one of the RC model magazines here in the UK?
Articles in Magazines are condensed, they only skimp over somones build. A book, if done properly, can describe a breif history of the model, step by step instructions showing how the model is built, from the humble beginnings, including hull, decks, superstructure, fittings etc, right up to fitting the radio control and ending with a chapter on sailing the model.
Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 4:30 am
by middle_watch
I get Model Boats for the Rangefinder article (a mix of current and past warships reviewed for the modeller - another Middle Watch over simplification!) and because there is usually a scratch build or part build article, one of each if lucky. My only "complaint" is that due to the limitations of space bits are sometimes jumped over and you are left looking at an assembled mast and thinking "How the heck...?" A book would be most welcome. Since becoming interested I have drawn several from the library but not been that impressed, they tend to be very general in nature, a book of soup to nuts on a particular project would be very welcome, particularly if it followed the format of my computer books and included a CD of photos and video clips!
And here is my revenge on Dave for all those hours turning the mag upside down and squinting at obscure images!
What are we looking at?

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 5:25 am
by Dave Wooley
Hi Middle Watch Well you�ve got me stumped. The Sea Cat launcher I see but that big red thing. I know it�s a practice round. Actually your comments regarding books are very valid indeed and I couldn�t agree more. Magazines by their very nature are limited by the need to vary the content and by definition try to deal with a wide variation of subjects to please every interest group. Which is impossible in a monthly magazine.
As this on going discussion highlights all mediums have they�re strong and weak point and yes a book on a specialist subject like ours is always of value. The last truly articulate publication dealing with scratch built warships was "Scale Model Warships" edited by John Bowen and that was published in 1978. But the real true iconic bible if you will was "Building Warship Models" by PC Coker For those old enough to have been able to get an original copy then you will instantly know when it is said that it is still the best of its genre ever printed. Both publications go into great detail on the constructional methods involved in scratch building. However I think time has moved on and those entering modelling tend to search for the "quick fix" this is not being critical but reflects life in general. Also the skill base is now spread very thin. I grew up very much in the shadow of the shipyard were 60% of the working population of our area including a large number of my family were employed in the industry or supply. This gave a good skill base and model building came naturally to many. Personally I think you can't have enough "how to" books but singularly one of the major advantages that book have over magazines or the electronic medium is that you can include detailed Illustration and drawings that can fold out and look at. But as Ron so rightly pointed out this all comes at a cost and specialist books aren�t cheap these days .
Dave Wooley
Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 5:56 am
by middle_watch
The last book I read employed a workshop so well equipped I doubt BAE could do better, bit demoralizing really, "I turned the dead eyes up on the lathe with a forming tool ground from high speed steel bar and..." That is why I like Ron's posts, no special tools! I would love to hear more about the guy mentioned at the IFOS who makes all his models from matchsticks and boxes!
He he, gotcha then! Okay, it is HMS Sirius transporting a gift to the King of Tonga on the occasion of his Coronation. Apparantly he used to go all misty eyed at the sight of them and comment how he always associated them with England. Odd, I always associate them with toilets and Miss Whiplash and her friends!
Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 7:40 am
by ARH
Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 7:54 am
by middle_watch
It ranks as the oddest cargo I know of! (Bet someone can Black Cat it though!)
I checked out prices of train sets while visiting the York Railway museum this weekend btw, Admiral, think I will have to stick with scratch building! �90 for a basic oval with one point, one locomotive and three carraiges, and that was one of the cheaper ones!
Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 8:16 am
by Victorious
Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 8:55 am
by middle_watch
LOL, strange maybe, but true. As for phoning home, there is a problem there, it is called a RadCall and every other ship and establishment in the Navy listens in on the conversation! I never did live down my calling my wife in mid Atlantic only to have her yell for every Operator in the Fleet to hear "Mike, you have to get a blood test, urgent!" (She had just found out she was pregnant and there was a possible problem, but try convincing anyone of that!)
Actually I was pondering odd cargos and recalled the last Ark Royal fired an old car off the ship using a steam catapult during families day.
Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 11:33 am
by spikesliew
I will love to have it in print. Count me in!!!

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 11:51 am
by Jose Chaica
Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:12 pm
by Victorious
Can you imagine being on exercise with that on board.
From ship on the horizon " Okay guys see that red box, that's your target"
Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:18 pm
by ARH
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 1:00 am
by Jimmy Conway
Hey ARH!!!
.........2 years gone and no book!!!!

I know I'm late here!!!!
Re: Ron and the Book
Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 12:14 pm
by kennylibben
wow... it has been two years, i don't know how I just saw this post now and not when jimmy brought life back to it, but yeah... I fully expect a new book since i was never able to get ahold of your old one! However, finish the Vermont first and put that in the book.... hehe.
