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The hull plating is fantastic Ryan!


I have a question though, very curious!
The plating is masking tape, would there be a possible chance of accidentally peeling the tape off, which could ruin the paint job?

Nick

Nick,

That my friend is my biggest concern with the hull plating I have tried, I am terrified of that happening! I am hoping I have prevented that from happening by sealing the tape on with a couple coats of future floor polish before and after the pain was applied. I have also sealed a few of the areas more apt to peeling with thin super glue along the seams of the tape.

Only time will tell, but with the coats of future I am reasonably confident that this should stand the tests of time. There will be a couple more coats of future, then after she is weathered, a coat of clear flat over that, so I hope the tape will be pretty well sealed in by then.

Thanks though, I have to say I am very pleased with the hull, having never tried this before.

Also as far as the tape for the hull plating goes,

The Tamiya tape is very tacky, and very high quality which should help. And, when I masked the line to do the red lower half after painted the main hull grey, NONE of the tape I used for the palting and had sealed with the future, pulled up. Not one edge or corner, so that really boosted my confidence that the plating should stay put for a long time to come.

Hopefully a couple months or years from now I am not typing a huge gripe on this forum complaining of my hull plating coming undone!

sgtryan13 wrote:Nick,

That my friend is my biggest concern with the hull plating I have tried, I am terrified of that happening! I am hoping I have prevented that from happening by sealing the tape on with a couple coats of future floor polish before and after the pain was applied. I have also sealed a few of the areas more apt to peeling with thin super glue along the seams of the tape.

Only time will tell, but with the coats of future I am reasonably confident that this should stand the tests of time. There will be a couple more coats of future, then after she is weathered, a coat of clear flat over that, so I hope the tape will be pretty well sealed in by then.

Thanks though, I have to say I am very pleased with the hull, having never tried this before.

Thats a pretty brave feat you've accomplished Ryan! I also used the Tamiya tape, VERY excellent stuff, but I never attempted using it for hull plating. I'm pretty sure the tape won't come off, thats a thick layer of paint and future!!

I think you've done an excellent job on it! considering the sheer and massive size of that hull!


Nick

I'm sorry i couldn't upload these last time Ryan i got real busy with some homeworks

these shots come from the Yamato "Modeling Guide" magazine and the model on the pics is not Nichimo's but the 1/250 scale from Doyusha. the model is inaccurate as it is i still got to give it to the modeler because this Doyusha kits required a great deal of enhancement and i mean it to me the plain kit is just another bathtub toy. i know the riveting task is tedious ryan you'd require alot patience on this one perhaps more than adding the wood deck. the white glue technique could be tricky and alot messier than any other if i had to choose i'd go for styrene rods or check this other build up from another fellow modeler over at modeshipwrights site, i've been following Dade's Yamato for quite sometime now and amazingly enough he is adding rivets to the hull .. http://www.modelshipwrights.com/modules ... 748&page=2 with rivets or no rivets she still look a winner, keep up the good work!!

Jose

Jose,

Thanks for those, all I can say is WOW! That other build on modelshipwrights was added right to my favorites list for references for this build.

I am not a big fan of the "clamps" he is using for the degaussing cable though, look too bulky for me.

Though thanks to your pics and link, now I am sitting here pondering the railroad rivets, and debating about putting them on mine and then repainting her. So if I end up doing that, I blame you for all the added work and time I will have to put in on this!

I do like the way he described his, as going more for "presence" than total accuracy. I want it to be accurate to a point where it is obviously the Yamato, but want it to be more of a representation of my skills as a modeler, and something I will enjoy looking at for years to come.

A few updates on the Yamato:

I have not gotten a ton of work done on her lately now that the nice weather has arrived, my motorcycle keeps screaming for me to hit the open road rather than sit at my workbench. The bike coupled with a beautiful young brunette who is a recent addition and likes going on rides down tho the beach has taken a bit out of my modeling time!

The main turrets are nearly complete, I added the work platforms to one of them from leftover 1/350 carrier safety nets, but I am looking for some opinions as to how they look. To me there is something "off" and I am considering getting rid of them. Any comments or suggestions as to these platforms on the barrels???

I also added more details to the well bay, I used the v groove styrene sheet for the floor just cause I like how it looks, I think I am going to paint the floor of the well deck witht the IJN linoleum brown color just to add some visual difference in the well deck.

Three minor quibbles, hopefully not too late to correct:

1. The degauss cable that runs around the ship is rectangular in cross section, not half-round.

2. The hull plating bands should not be present on the outside of heavy side armor belt. The heavy armor belt sits on top of the riveted hull sides. The belt plates themselves fit together flush using edge to edge dovetail joints without visible raised rivets. In any case, the joints in the heavy belt armor runs up and down only. Each plate extends the entire height of the main armor belt from the top edge to well below the point where the belt is covered by the top edge of the torpedo blister. There are no side to side joints.

3. There should be 5 horizontal bands of plating on the torpedo blister.

Chuck,

You have certainly given me some food for thought...

As for the cable, i had seen some pics where it was rectangular, I figured that was a mistake because it honestly looked a little goofy to me.

For the midships armor plating, that is a detail I am ashamed that I overlooked, not really sure how I nissed it, I think I must have just gotten carried away with the tape and never realized it.

I knew the number of rows for the plating was not correct, I just went with something that gave the overall appearance for the plating effect I was going for.

With the amount of details I have since added to the hull (not posted pics yet) unfortunately I don't think any of these errors will be able to be correted at this point

Any opinions on the work platforms on the main gun barrels? I have moved on to a different area of the build while I try to figure weather to leave them, improve them, or toss them in the trash.

Thanks for the input, I may be coming to you with some questions soon about other areas that are not beyond the point where they can be altered yet.

Here are a few more shots of the progress, almost ready for some primer and paint.

The rails for the turrest require some finesse and creative fitting. I think GMM did the rails to match the AOTS book dimensions of the turret, not the Nichimo kit.

These shots also show how the turrets look without the work platforms, I am still hoping for some input on these.

The superstructure is almost done getting the photo etch treatment, lots and lots of brass and styrene have been put in place, and a little more still to come.

I tried to get some good closeups of the aft section of the main bridge area, this was the spot that was hardest for me to find good pictures of how others have arranged this area.

ANY UPDATES MATE

It has been slow going so I have not bothered with any pictures in a while, the majority of my time has been spent still planking the deck, which is now well over 1/2 done, probably 2/3 done at this point.

I think the superstructure has recieved just about all the details it's gonna get, so will be ready for paint this week i hope.

Man this deck planking is so monotinous! I throw a movie in my computer and get to planking, and by the time a 2 hour movie is over, I have planked about 6 square inches of deck. I can not wait till the planking is done, sometimes I go to work on her and end up sitting at my bench just staring at her for half an hour trying to see the light at the end of the tunnel on this project!

I do still really love the look of the planking, I really can't imagine how she would look without it.

Also here are some pics of how I solved the fit and warping issues at the stern to get the hull side pieces to stay put. Crude but effective!

I believe that there is a metal band located just under the seam on the conning tower. can't remember the height but it was rivited and went all the way around the conning tower. BTW, I have a set of brass barrels for this kit made by the late Steve Nuttal. The set includes all main, secondary and the 12.7mm AA guns also some blast bags ( only 8, lost one) that I made for the main batteries but they won't fit the kit turrets as I made my own turrets and so they look more like they are at the -5 degree point in elevation. $100.00 if you are interested. Jon

I thought I had seen some type of band around that area of the tower before, and that is the effect AI am leaning towards using. Thanks for the barrel offer, but I have had to pick and choose what aftermarket stuff I can afford,a nd what I can live without. I'm on a tight budget these days, but there are so many upgrades I would love to be able to still add to this build! Anoter $100 for barrels is not a possibility at the moment.

The build is going most excellent!

Thanks Richter!

Just a small update, I think more for myself as proof that I am in fact making progress on this beast. The deck planking is getting towards the end, but becoming mre time consuming as I have to cut around all of the AAA gin tubs.

Beautiful work Ryan

After having been away for some time, I was happy to come across this excellent Yamato build. I am very impressed with your work!

My build has been packed away for some time & remains half-finished as Yamato looked in her early '41-42 configuration. For the hull plating, I used 3M ScotchBlue tape & sprayed a heavy filler primer to add some depth. Once dry, I removed the tape & did a light sanding. Its nowhere as detailed as yours but not bad for what is going to be pond toy one of these days.

This will become a real good Yamato!
I saw that you discussed adding rivets. In my IJN Tone build (1/350) I added a lot of rivets. See in the picture on the funnel and the hull:
The hull from the Yankee Modelworks model did not exhibit much details. I used here for the first time Archer surface details rivets (actually decals, but with rows of 3dimensional resin rivets). For 1/350 scale I would recommend the smallest versions (0.2 mm) and the double row rivets. I used also larger ones and some of the finer weld beads. In your scale 1/200 you have more chice. These surface details can be found on this page:
http://www.archertransfers.com/catSurfaceDetails.html
Only problem: When the rivets are overpainted with final color, the adhesion is a little bit weak. I realized this when I later used Tamiya masking tape on it: One row of rivets (out of 6) was removed with the tape.