The Soviet Navy in WWII or When Hitler lost the war

[Dave Wooley]

I guess time lines and facts are always a difficult to unravel. But Hitler may well have lost the opportunities to win a European war on September 15 1940. Thus perhaps any chance of defeating the Soviet Union.
Dave Wooley

[Filipe Ramires]

There's also the major commitment of German Forces to the Mediterranean in April/May 1941 when Hitler decided to go support what Mussolini was not able to do (Greece, Creete, North Africa). Had the Italians been able to deal with the Allies in the Mediterranean Germany would have more forces to Barbarossa and no need to delay the launch the operation by one month, decision that turned to be fatal for them due to Winter coming. Of course the decision of the "corporal" to send Armies to the South when a siege to Moscow was imminent helped things out.

[Admiral John Byng]

There's also the major commitment of German Forces to the Mediterranean in April/May 1941 when Hitler decided to go support what Mussolini was not able to do (Greece, Creete, North Africa). Had the Italians been able to deal with the Allies in the Mediterranean Germany would have more forces to Barbarossa and no need to delay the launch the operation by one month, decision that turned to be fatal for them due to Winter coming. Of course the decision of the "corporal" to send Armies to the South when a siege to Moscow was imminent helped things out.

I don't think that month would have made much difference in the long run.
The Soviets could exchange ground for time. They would have suffered more losses but they could afford them more than the Germans.

[Admiral John Byng]

And why would one count himself a qualifying arbitrary on historical matters if the only thing one can demonstrate is being a victim of brainwash concoction of media myths , consisting of "gulags", deaths, rapes and other saucy things one probably read in some popular publications?

So, basically you are admiting that there were no such things as the Gulags and war crimes committed by the Red Army.

No, they were lovely. That is why they are so fondly remembered all over Europe today.

[Filipe Ramires]

I don't think that month would have made much difference in the long run.
The Soviets could exchange ground for time. They would have suffered more losses but they could afford them more than the Germans.

Perhaps...I agree. However, it would give the Germans one extra month to move to Moscow, unless Mr. "Corporal" interfered as usual. What would happen if the Soviet capital had fallen?? This is getting to what-if but then why not...!! A capital city falling, the Government running away to somewhere in the Urals, populations and troops moral going low...!!!

[Filipe Ramires]

No, they were lovely. That is why they are so fondly remembered all over Europe today.

Specially by the Cossacks...!!!