At 'Em Arizona Fans!

dick wood · Post by **dick wood** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 5:51 am

tony, congrats frist in you picking up an award, and second for getting her done in typical Bunch style, with the paint still wet!!

Also, remember, Columbus is hosting the 2009 Nats and you have a place to stay and finish up.... lets see your 1/350 MO maybe??

If all goes right I will have a 1/350 Arizona to put on the table.

Tony Bunch · Post by **Tony Bunch** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:17 am

Hi Guys,
Dick,
Thanks for the invite; I accept. The Az did not look bad at all, it's just not truly finished. I still have a second jack staff to add on, the anchors, (I don't know how I forgot those), a bunch of rigging and some pastel type weathering.
A 1/350 build to go across the country would require trusting a delivery carrier, (which I don't), or sticking with a 1/700 build or two and the use of my airline pre-approved carry-on wood box. I got the idea from Jerry Jackson, (2 first place awards last weekend), as he's been at this for a while.
I do need to finish the Mo.
I almost picked up a 1/350 Tom's Arizona......jsut can't get enough!
Tony

dick wood · Post by **dick wood** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:35 am

Tony and crew:

Hidden deep deep away in my stash is a beloved early (I think it's a 1929) AZ from Toms!!! That is on my future build list

Ya got to love those Cage masts !

As of right now I will be plugging away on a Banner 1941 AZ, and I hope to post pictures in a week or two. If I am lucky and do the Bunch method of building, I will have it finish just before the Virgina Beach Nats next year

Elvis965 · Post by **Elvis965** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:52 am

Dick,

Have you broken into that Eduard PE set yet?

I'm still waiting for mine to arrive.

Bob

dick wood · Post by **dick wood** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:59 am

I have opened the package and the parts look better in life than they do on their web site.

Right now I am betting the hull and decl in shape for painting , new proppler assembly , and misc items. I am also prepping the deck by removing raised parts that will be replaced by PE.

I would suggestht that you study the instruction sheets many times and get a assembly sequence set in your mind.

I think it is a wonderful set when used with GMM set. I for one have always thought that you could build pset of the superstructure with brass.

Post me when you get your and I would be intrested in what you think.

Seeling · Post by **Seeling** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 10:47 pm

Hi All-
Just curious if anyone has ever seen photos of what is IN the fighting tops? I always have seen photos in books that show the outside from a distance but even the Stillwell book does not provide much in the way of details of what "layers" or equipment is included in the fighting tops. This would likely be hard to put on a model. However, just being the curious sort, I was wondering what was up there? Anyone know? Or does anyone have any pics? I am sure this could apply to any battleship of the period since they all seem to have had them.

By the way - GREAT MODEL Tony as usual!

J. Seeling

ModelWarships Gallery Page · Post by **ArizonaBB39** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:03 pm

The fighting tops were used as sighting platforms for the broadside 5"/51 guns (If I remember correctly), but I've never seen any pictures of the insides before.

I don't think anyone is allowed to go up there on the USS Texas either (and I doubt any of the equipment would still be there), so I'm not aware of any photos that show the insides from any ships with fighting tops

richter111 · Post by **richter111** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:08 am

Actually the USS Texas does allow people up to the tops, you just have to have special permission and an escort (at least the last time I was there)

Ric

Ron Smith · Post by **Ron Smith** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:13 am

There are drawings, usually deep in the microfilm that people don't usually bother go that far. There are also lots of photos but they're mostly in bound albums.

herrmill · Post by **herrmill** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 12:09 am

Are there any fans here who plan to buy Trumpeter's new 1/200 Arizona?

I've heard its still slated for Nov release & would love to see comments from anyone with additional knowledge of the kit, aftermarket kits, etc...

I plan to purchase the kit for RC conversion to sail up against my IJN fleet. Isn't that what every BB captain dreams of?

Chuck

Tracy White · Post by **Tracy White** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 12:28 am

I will be picking one up and will be doing a full review of it.
I will be fair, but I'm not going to pull punches either if I find dumb mistakes

Tracy White · Post by **Tracy White** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 12:49 am

Tom from Tom's modelworks contacted me a couple of months ago and said a 350th copy of his 1941 kit had been shipped back east for use on the kit. While it was a decent kit at one point I would hope that Trumpeter would go beyond a simple pantograph of this kit as there are a number of errors in it due to the nature of resin molds.

dick wood · Post by **dick wood** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 5:53 am

Tony:

From what I remember, TMW did two versions od the kit 1929, and a 1941. Jeff Herrn did a report on one. The link is in the very beginning of this thread.

As far as the 1/200 one goes, I doubt I will build one as I am just begging to start on the Banner 1/350. I sure as hell they don't pentragraph it up fron the Banner kit. I just we have to wait and pray!!

Tony, how about a 1/350 Buckley for the Columbus Nats? I have one and my father served on on during WWII. She was the USS Rich DE695, and she was lost off Nornandy.

Keep building you guys, and I an still plugging at the Arizona, and yes I will post a few pics .

herrmill · Post by **herrmill** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:08 am

I have to ask after seeing the last few replies to my earler post: isn't Trumpeter expected to just scale up & improve on their old 1/350 kit?

What chances to we have of seeing one of the major aftermarket suppliers come out with an early conversion kit?

Chuck

dick wood · Post by **dick wood** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:00 am

chuck:

I doubt that there would be a conversion to makea earlu version of her. There were a bunch of changes to the hull along.

I think it would be be easet to up date a her than back date her. The torpedo bulges are too much of a itemt to remove to IMHO

Dick Wood

Tracy White · Post by **Tracy White** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 5:36 pm

A 1935 (ish) conversion wouldn't be that difficult and there's lots of reasons it would appeal to people. Nothing's been announced yet though.

Tony: I've got a Tom's kit and have been meaning to write up something about it, but for the time being, the biggest problem in my book is that they cast the upper hull as a single piece and changed the shape of things so that it would work this way. The bulkheads around the 5"/51s are curved where they should end in sharp corners. The area underneath the main tripod on the quarter deck is wrong... both were done because it otherwise would have torn the molds old.

Splinter shield on the flag level is photo-etched down to the main deck... it can be difficult to get this right but hey, ain't the journey supposed to be a bit of a challenge?

Upper and lower hull pieces on mine have a serious shape mis-match on my kit. It's also not broke at the waterline either, look to the post on the first page regarding the Banner kit to see what I'm talking about.

Tony Bunch · Post by **Tony Bunch** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:25 am

Hi Guys,
To all modeler's out there who/m build for contests. To they who need a deadline to finish a project! Madness on a small scale!
From our $120/night Anaheim Marriott hotel room, here I am on the night before the Friday IPMS Nats model entry deadline day. It's 0200 on Friday morning and I've got to be behind the L'Arsenal USA vendor table from 0900-1800. I was tired most of that trip! I had fun though.........

I'm adding on the acrylic gel for the water, and I just got back from San Diego with the rest of my contest entries, (New Jersey/Buchanan, Missouri DS, Long Beach, Camo'd B-58 in 1/72 scale)......and the AZ!

I hope someone gets a kick out of this!
One last flashback!
Here's to Dick Wood............don't do what I did!
faithfully submitted, Tony Bunch
Now an Arizona Fan!

John Leyland · Post by **John Leyland** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 4:37 pm

US Naval Weapons by Norman Friedman has drawings of fire control equipment used in the fighting tops and other later main battery fire control positions pp.33-37. I have never seen a photo. Perhaps they were too top secret to do so?

Sten Ekedahl · Post by **Sten Ekedahl** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 3:50 pm

Slowly working along on my 1/350 USS Arizona - gathering references and additional aftermarket detail parts - one thing has eluded my efforts so far. On several 1941 photos, and also on the wonderful 1/96 Don Pruel model of the ship, there are several life rafts fitted on the outside of the superstructure and the bases of two of the main turrets. Since these life rafts are missing from the kit, I have been trying to find a source for them. So far I have been unsuccessful. Can anybody give me som help where I can find an aftermarket product for these life rafts?

TIA!

Tony Bunch · Post by **Tony Bunch** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:36 pm

Hi Guys,
Steve,
Yankeemodelworks did offer some 1/350 life rafts in cast white metal of the "oval" variety.
FWIW....I have always looked to other kits of same scale and eras for these, "missing" items; including the 1/350 oval life rafts.
I'd look into ISW/Commander Series kits of the Arizona or similary equipped ships for your elusive life rafts.
"Good luck, we're all counting on you..."!
Tony
ps I'll be soon acquiring an original Tom's 1/350 1941 Arizona, and if it has these rafts in any appreciable quantity, I'll see if I am able to assist you.

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At 'Em Arizona Fans!

Tony Congrats!!

Toms Arizona

Elvis

RE: AZ Fighting Tops

Tony : what year is the TMW

Early Arizona

had to share this one..........

Fighting top directors

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