SS Hydrograaf, 1/100 3D, hydrographic ship, Royal Dutch Navy

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Today I concentrated on the mature, the rigging, the shroud ladders, the load mast, the pulleys, integrating new discoveries in the HD plans.

Of course it's not over yet.

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EXCELLENT work and research - especially on the masts! truly unusual -- but well conceived!

what are those poles with floats?

I had ( and made ) the same on my mine-sweeper model....still am not quite clear as to purpose...!
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Perhaps buoys visible from afar to mark out the area to be surveyed or to hunt for mines.

It can also be used to temporarily mark a danger, wreck, rock, mine that are discovered.

But this is just a guess.
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That's what I was thinking. Discovered mine-fields were marked with such buoys to indicate safe passages along the cleared paths.

Likewise, obstacles, such as wrecks could be marked with such buoys for exact trigonometric location determination - or vice versa, known locations can be marked in that way and cross-sightings taken from unknown locations to map them.
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It's slowly coming to an end, at least for the design, and later the printing and editing will come.

I think it's going to go better than the Nomadic which wasn't too bad. I have a bit more experience of how to design and avoid the problems of going from the virtual world to the real world, you have to anticipate everything.

I designed the "pergola" supports before. I have almost finished the largest starboard lifeboat. I have very precise plans, that helps. I still have the brackets to draw and the rudder spur. I simplified the drawing of the clins by simulating them with cleats. At this scale it's OK, I've saved time.

I still have to draw the large port pram, typical Dutch or Norwegian.

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Very impressive work. So many details lovingly rendered.
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Beautiful vessel with all the characteristics of vessels of that era I love

Bravo! :thumbs_up_1:
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The virtual rendering is most excellent. In this type of ship modeling one can in some ways bore down into the virtual world. The challenge of turning this into a real 3D model with physical presence is not to be underestimated! This phase will be eagerly watched!

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This model keeps getting better and better!!!

Kind of reminds me of "The African Queen" - I can see Lauren & Bogey on the fantail watching the sun go down as the boat slowly makes it's way down the river.....

OK, so I'm an ole fogey :doh_1: :doh_1: :doh_1:

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This should make your weekend, Hank! :big_grin: :cool_1:

"One of the challenges of recreating the boat rebuilding the steam engine, which was more than 100 years old. In the movie, the boat was powered by a diesel engine that was made to look like a steam engine.But when Evans restored it he decided to fit a real steam engine and had one airfreighted from Britain."

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I have started some 3D printing, finally of the real stuff:

230 mm high, a record for me.

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Lovely looking ships boat with a tangible looking canvas cover ( my bette noire ...) :wave_1:

BUT... :cool_2:

I assume there was an overlapping canvas flap/ flap ( back then --probably using ' dutch lacing ( lace up ... )

-- going IN-board from the collars of the boat falls...?
Dutch lacing is lops of eyelets with next loop passed thru ...
( classic method of joining canvas panels

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXBG3p8vWcQ

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Pascal,

Thanks for the movie clip!!! Just add popcorn!!!! :big_grin:

Your parts are looking good - I'm esp. keen on your orientation, etc. One of the MORE importantn aspects of 3D printing. This is a real Killer Project!!!!

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ROYAL CAROLINE (1748) 1:47
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Correct Jim, there is a lacing between the pulley and the bow at the front and at the back it is the same.We had this type of boat in the 1980's, it didn't change much until the covered boats to get through the fire came along and so did the freefall boats.

The canvas cover was never really watertight because of these laces, but the boat's nab was always open. A plastic ball would block the nab hole at the bottom of the hold in case of an oversight during the launch, hurried or not.

Most of them were not covered to speed up the launching.As a result the equipment on board was not well protected, oars, mast, sail, engine. Sun, salt, moon and humidity were the enemies.
JIM BAUMANN wrote:Lovely looking ships boat with a tangible looking canvas cover ( my bette noire ...) :wave_1:

BUT... :cool_2:

I assume there was an overlapping canvas flap/ flap ( back then --probably using ' dutch lacing ( lace up ... )

-- going IN-board from the collars of the boat falls...?
Dutch lacing is lops of eyelets with next loop passed thru ...
( classic method of joining canvas panels

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXBG3p8vWcQ

cheers
JB
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Thanks Hank!
BB62vet wrote:Pascal,

Thanks for the movie clip!!! Just add popcorn!!!! :big_grin:

Your parts are looking good - I'm esp. keen on your orientation, etc. One of the MORE important aspects of 3D printing. This is a real Killer Project!!!!

Hank
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It's a big piece this bridge castle, it's well done, like good bread, it fits perfectly. :D

Always a bit stressful to wait 13 hours for it to print, then the cutting of the supports always tricky.

I had started the design of this big piece and its accessories on October 3rd 2021. I just have to clean it up.

I will be able to print the other parts to "dress it up".

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The details and surfaces are really convincing!
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Pascal,

I am really beginning to get envious of your 3D printing skills!

The hand grabs along the sides of the cabin look nice. Are they open between the rail and the deck house side?

When I start on my 1:96 model of the USS Oklahoma City CLG-5 there will be a lot of these type grab irons along the sides of the missile house, on the Mk 37 director and some other places, plus things like ladder rungs. These are mostly 1 to 1.25 inch diameter (25 to 30 mm). That comes out to about 0.010" to 0.013" (0.25 to 0.33 mm) at 1:96 scale.

Can you print pipes or railings this small? How strong are they?

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Phil. Grab irons this size print very well. Of course they can be added directly to something like a MK 37. Thy can also be added as separate item, I did this on the stern of my LSM
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