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gtb -red wrote:just got off work. shaw ya tomorrow!

Me needs an answer!
I cant steer my ship whitout some explaining from black wash
What=blackwash?
Mitch

mitchell300 wrote:

gtb -red wrote:just got off work. shaw ya tomorrow!

Me needs an answer!
I cant steer my ship whitout some explaining from black wash
What=blackwash?
Mitch

A black wash is where you thin out black paint, very thin, almost transparent, and you apply it over the model in a couple of coats. You are washing the model with this thinned out balck thnner. The thinned out "wash" will run into the various details and make them stand out. Armor model builders do this to get a "weathered" look. To do it properly you would also go back with your base color and highlight ( dry brush) raised details to give a highlighted appearance. The edges of everything on the ship get highlighted and the flat surfaces will look weathered. For example, you could wash the island with a black wash and take the base color and dry brush the island over the wash. It will color the edges and raised details and it looks very good. A lot of ship modelors do this to get the bridge windows to come out with out having to paint the windows. It is very easy to over do the affect. Go light at first and get the hang of it. It is tough to get a flight deck weathered unevenly like a real deck does with this method. The landing area gets a pretty good beating durring a deployment where other parts of the deck generally do not wear as much. The wash tends to run everywhere evenly.

Another way to get the affect you are looking for on carrier decks is to use a cotton ball/ cotton cloth and black chalk. I never got the results I was looking for with a "thinned wash" for the flight deck. I use pastel artist chalk. For better affects, I attach the Island after I complete this proccess, otherwise you will get black dust all over the island and make a mess.

1) Paint the deck, I have it glued onto the hull and all deck parts like elevators positioned where I will leave them. I use gunship gray for modern carriers
2) Gloss coat it to get a nice glossy finnish to get the decals to sit down on the deck. This will help avoid the dreaded "silvering" of decals.
3) Apply your decals
4) paint the cat tracks if you would like. I gennerally do not on a 700th scale ship but it would be a nice touch and I might do that on my next one. You could do a black wash and dry brush that I described above before you continue to weather the non flight deck surfaces and the entire ship if you want.
5) Dull coat the deck after everything is way dry!
6) Use a cotton ball or cotton cloth, apply the chalk, and rub it onto the deck.( a cloth is better; the cotton ball gets caught on the edges) I give the whole deck a wipe over and then I concentrate on the landing area. You want to get the white lines to gray/black out a bit. After I get the deck where I want it color wise, I wipe it along the length of the deck to give it a uniform appearance and smooth out any areas where I might have overdone it.
7) attach the Island and as of late, I have started rigging my ships with the stretch sprue method.

Do not use any spray over chalk! It will screw up the whole thing and make you very angry. Have anything you attach to the ship after doing this already dull coated and complete! You also have to be very careful handling the model because you will put your fingerprints all over it and everything else you touch! ( Black fingerprints on the refridgerator after working will anger the finance minister and jeopardize future projects!! )

The first time you try this, you will probably make a mess of it. Just give it a try and you may want to start with a cheaper kit to practice on. Once you get the hang of it, you will love the results!

Good luck!

Mark

For wash liquids, you can also try a product called "The Detailer" from Long Enterprises. Google it and you will find their website. It's good stuff, and you can clean it with Windex or other household cleaners.

jgrease,

Great looking Essex. I really like the way your flight deck turned out. That is a fantastic weathering job.

Looking forward to seeing the airwing on board.

Well done John.

Gordon - thanks for your compliments. As I mentioned earlier, I've taken much inspiration from your builds.

mitchell300 wrote:

gtb -red wrote:just got off work. shaw ya tomorrow!

Me needs an answer!
I cant steer my ship whitout some explaining from black wash
What=blackwash?
Mitch

doing the BigE forward part of the flightdeck tonight.

Still the best fighter pound for pound to me. http://s365.photobucket.com/albums/oo95 ... ll/667.jpg http://s365.photobucket.com/albums/oo95 ... hv53ep.jpg i sat in the cockpit in a f-4s at the old El Toro base. I clean runways at the time and a plane capt that knew me ask did want to check out his SuperRhino. Never fergit that day.

gtb -red wrote:Still the best fighter pound for pound to me. http://s365.photobucket.com/albums/oo95 ... ll/667.jpg http://s365.photobucket.com/albums/oo95 ... hv53ep.jpg i sat in the cockpit in a f-4s at the old El Toro base. I clean runways at the time and a plane capt that knew me ask did want to check out his SuperRhino. Never fergit that day.

Great pics Red!!

gtb -red wrote:

Avery Boyer wrote:Well after I finish Savannah, guess what I'm going to build!



I can't resist! I love the Sara, she's just my favorite supercarrier. I think I'll just donate my build to the Saratoga museum for display there, since I don't have too much of a place here. It's a ways off though, Savannah first!

So Avery,what size,paper or plastic?

1/350 Scale and I don't know yet Should be fun!

Avery Boyer wrote:

gtb -red wrote: So Avery,what size,paper or plastic?

1/350 Scale and I don't know yet Should be fun!

Suprise 'im Red!! And yep, she'll be alot of fun!! The Ranger Association is interested in my Ranger already!!

I can't wait to see her Avery!! It's gonna be one challenging build, and I'm not even halfway with Connie, she still needs the airwing!



Nick

nick wrote:I can't wait to see her Avery!! It's gonna be one challenging build, and I'm not even halfway with Connie, she still needs the airwing!



Nick

Carriers are only as good as her air wing

Hi Ya John, my favorite Nimitz is looking good. http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 0S-101.jpg http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 7B-085.jpg she looks like a BattleCarrier. Look at the island has been fuse with the aft tower. I 'll just wait until I see more details on the weapons.

Guys, do anyone knows anyone that can make about 20 of these for me? http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo95 ... 0_1869.jpg

Avery, I'm planing on building her too.

Ok, My 1/350 Ranger is on the bench, and has a thread of her own
viewtopic.php?f=59&t=41700

Red, it's ALL yer Fault!!

That is a very nice looking start for Ranger. She will look very cool with her airwing aboard!

Mark McKinnis wrote:That is a very nice looking start for Ranger. She will look very cool with her airwing aboard!

Thanks Mark Need to come up on more a/c for the air wing. Namely A-4c & Es, UH-2A/Bs and more A-1s

While you 3 guys work on your Forrestals. I'll be working on BigE 1961 build. By the way ED i lost that Hancock posting. Think you can send it again?

gtb -red wrote:While you 3 guys work on your Forrestals. I'll be working on BigE 1961 build. By the way ED i lost that Hancock posting. Think you can send it again?

I'll see if I can find it again
http://www.usshancockassociation.org/