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GMM puts out 2 sets for the 1/200 Yamato. They also put out a 1/200 IJN railing set which is good.
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Thanks guys, I will look into it!
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ne0n1010 wrote:Hi All,

Just wondering what detail kit would be best for the 1/200 Nichimo Yamato.

I have had this kit for a while and have decided that its time to break it out after doing numerous planes and dioramas its time to have a crack at a big one.

I have the english instructions (thankfully) and Janus' book on the Yamato with the drawings which is amazing.
Thanks.
this kit needs a lot of work, you cant get a wood deck for it anymore either.......but because it's so large the PE is much easier to work with, i hate that tiny fiddly stuff.

i'm building the Hasegawa Yamato 1/450 new tool, but the kit is missing the masts that go on the secondary turrets, this is a really bad error, otherwise the kit is pretty good and easy to assemble, the hull plating is very good...... the missing masts are on the PE thank God, but i've run out of vertical ladders so i'm waiting for the PE to arrive from China ..........LOL.

after this, i'll tackle the Tamiya Musashi 1/350 and i might use Flyhawk PE for her
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I've not built many ship kits in the past, mainly aircraft on and off over the past 45 years - with a big gap of around 20 years until recently. I consider myself to be at a mid level of modelling and only just getting used to PE, airbrushes and model technics. It's only recently that I started ship modelling and have looked on jealously at the quality of the model builds on this forum. Anyway, to the point, I picked up the 1/200 kit a few weeks ago and have just had delivered the Artwox wooden deck, L'arsnel main and secondary guns and the GMM PE kit. The kit is old but great fun to build (hull done, working on the superstructure) and is testing my scratch build skills with evergreen. It won't be an exact replica, that's not my thing, but it is the Yamato, best looking ship ever (with the exception of HMS Mourne and HMS Whirlwind in which I had 2 family members who served on them hence more of an emotional attachment !).

Go for the kit, you'll easily find all of the aftermarket stuff and you'll have great fun building as it was done in the 60s/70s. Enjoy
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npb748r wrote:I've not built many ship kits in the past, mainly aircraft on and off over the past 45 years - with a big gap of around 20 years until recently. I consider myself to be at a mid level of modelling and only just getting used to PE, airbrushes and model technics. It's only recently that I started ship modelling and have looked on jealously at the quality of the model builds on this forum. Anyway, to the point, I picked up the 1/200 kit a few weeks ago and have just had delivered the Artwox wooden deck, L'arsnel main and secondary guns and the GMM PE kit. The kit is old but great fun to build (hull done, working on the superstructure) and is testing my scratch build skills with evergreen. It won't be an exact replica, that's not my thing, but it is the Yamato, best looking ship ever (with the exception of HMS Mourne and HMS Whirlwind in which I had 2 family members who served on them hence more of an emotional attachment !).

Go for the kit, you'll easily find all of the aftermarket stuff and you'll have great fun building as it was done in the 60s/70s. Enjoy

mine was an RC Pond model, it didn't have PE (PE wasn't around years ago), it's dead easy to make yes..........uum this has got me wondering now :heh: , because both the Hasegawa and a future Tamiya Musashi if anything are too small.

will Trumpeter ever make a 1/200 ? ....i doubt it because they haven't already, in fact it looks like they're ignoring it on purpose.

i managed to get the PE hull railings on the Hasegawa Yamato done today, WOW that was hard, it took 4 hours to do both sides.............that's the worst of the model done..

i'd do it this way if i was TRUMPETER........i'd have the decks as photo etch sheets with the railings already attached to the side, you just bend them vertically, then over the top you'd stick down the wooden deck sheet, you'd have to brace underneath the thin PE deck though, but there must be a way to do this.

because i've already seen this done on the Musashi's superstructure deck plates, so in theory it can be done for the main deck too
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FYI. L'Arsenal is giving free shipping for the next couple weeks. So if you want to get those resin turrets for your 1/200 Yamato...
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i'm a little bit concerned about the weathering on ``Hotel`` Yamato, (as she was called) i saw a documentary on her sinking just now on Youtube, the sailors were probably cleaning her superstructure quite often, not much else to do

it looks like a satin paint finish .........but i'm not sure about pure matt.

i've slightly weathered mine with a wash of diluted light grey but i think it's wrong, she looks too scruffy now.......maybe cold wet steel is more accurate, or damp steel which is a satiny !

but my biggest worry is the weathering, i bet she wasn't weathered at all.........how about well maintained and painted by the crew regularly........with any weathering being on her hull side, i'm not sure

what do you think guys ?????
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What video are you talking about? I hope it isn't animated.
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Senkan wrote:What video are you talking about? I hope it isn't animated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmk5AEpDbuw

at about 31 minutes in, she's not Yamato, but i'm still wondering about the paint finish

i've looked at more photos and this paint finish is tricky, i'm seeing both matt and satin depending..... i sometimes get this type of finish with spraying matt laquer, if you put too much on it dries satin.........esp if it's diluted.

i'm not sure now :big_grin:
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The paints may be glossy or semi-gloss in 1:1 scale, but if you try to do that in 1/700 or 1/350, it often comes across as toylike or unpainted plastic.
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Timmy C wrote:The paints may be glossy or semi-gloss in 1:1 scale, but if you try to do that in 1/700 or 1/350, it often comes across as toylike or unpainted plastic.
yes....... i weathered her superstructure with a wash of black, it looks good, i'm going to attempt to weather the underside like a Supertanker, but if it looks wrong i can always wash it off.......i haven't added all of her PE, i'll save all of this extra stuff for the larger tamiya musashi next year, and to be honest you cant see it on the Hasegawa kit...it's just too small..because you can only just notice the railings on the turret tops

her deck is painted black and was much easier to do than i thought.......it only took 2 hours including touchups, i can still see the deck planking so i'm very pleased with it......i gave it 2 coats with diluted Acrylic artist paint, using a very expensive wide bladed paint brush, it gave a really flat thin coat. .........next job is the sandbags !!!!

i've got the Flyhawk PE for the tamiya Musashi 1/350, it is amazing
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Flyhawk-1-350 ... SwX~dWqFz9
....i've never seen so much PE and resin, the turret tops and superstructure are sheathed in it, everything is replaced with PE, it looks very scary, it has miles more detail than the stuff i had for the Yamato Premium..........i wont tackle this till next year, it's going to take flipping ages to make...........maybe a years work !!!
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Looks like they are reprinting this and can be pre oderderd this month...

http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10067061
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I'm about 40% through my build of the 1/200 kit, my first 1/200 ship (and only my 4th ship kit). Thoroughly enjoying the process, I am actually model making, building things from scratch for the first time in probably 30 years !!! I have brought a couple of new (to me) tools, a rivet maker and small drills and have used resin aftermarket (for the main and secondary guns) for the first time. Only my 4th or 5th use of PE as well so on the whole I'm a happy boy. I have a quick question though that I could do with some help on. Once completed, I will need to display this beast, I was thinking placing on a wooden plinth and having a glass cover made for it. Any suggestions as to how best to display this and where do people get their glass cases made ??

thanks in advance

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Senkan wrote:Looks like they are reprinting this and can be pre oderderd this month...

http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10067061
I got an email from them last night.

This is a must have book for anyone interested in Yamato.
I would strongly suggest pre-ordering this while supplies last.
Best book on the market and $22 is a steal.

Don't miss out, or you will regret it the rest of your days on earth!
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npb748r wrote: Once completed, I will need to display this beast, I was thinking placing on a wooden plinth and having a glass cover made for it. Any suggestions as to how best to display this and where do people get their glass cases made ??

thanks in advance

neil
http://premiershipmodels.co.uk/41-model-cases
or anything similar online
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i've finished the Hasegawa new tool 1/450 Yam, i'm now returning to WW2 fighters etc and back onto the Musashi/USS New Jersey next year.

things i've learnt :mad_1:

1......dont use fine thread for the rigging, use nylon monofilament instead, because it doesn't matter how thin it is, you'll still see that it's thread

2......the main mast is very weak and bends over easily, i had to re-rig it 3 times, i therefore couldn't rig it accurately i had to leave most of it off, i might try and make the mast legs for Musashi in steel rod.

3......next time on the larger tamiya kit it'll need all the PE, because my fujimi Yamato doesn't look realistic enough, i can get away with this as it's my first battleship model in years, but this isn't good enough for next time.

what went well :- painting and weathering and the final matt lacquer dried a satin finish, which catches the steel plating perfectly, this saved the model because it looks excellent at range. the underside looks much better weathered, because a clean underside (to me) looks wrong when the rest is weathered.
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MalX wrote:
npb748r wrote: Once completed, I will need to display this beast, I was thinking placing on a wooden plinth and having a glass cover made for it. Any suggestions as to how best to display this and where do people get their glass cases made ??

thanks in advance

neil
http://premiershipmodels.co.uk/41-model-cases
or anything similar online

Thanks - looks promising
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Yamoto Pontos detail sets

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Can anybody tell me what the difference is between the three different Pontos detail sets for the Tamiya Yamoto? Anybody have suggestions on which one is the best?
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Engine9 wrote:Can anybody tell me what the difference is between the three different Pontos detail sets for the Tamiya Yamoto? Anybody have suggestions on which one is the best?
you'll have to research, because one of these might be for the old tool Yamato, it'll be brilliant PE but try to find out which is the latest version.

i have the Firehawk PE for the Musashi and it's very detailed, it comes with a 40 page booklet........the main turrets have additional grab railings on the side that i've never seen before, The turret tops/bridge is covered in PE plating, it has ammo boxes, sand bags, search lights, turned brass Capstans, hull portholes etc...........it's very scary to see
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Flyhawk-1-350 ... SwX~dWqFz9
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Do you guys think that I should go with one row of bedrolls or two like in the movie?
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