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Re: 1/700 Amagi diorama
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 8:54 am
by EJFoeth
Aur wrote:the pitch is greatest near the hub and decreases towards the edge.
For the pitch
angle, you are right.

Re: 1/700 Amagi diorama
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 2:25 am
by marijn van gils
Many thanks everyone! Your kind words are motivating me a lot!
Many thanks for the tip Aur!
Giving a compound curve to these blades would be difficult, because they are etched from stainless steel and are the full thickness of the sheet. But still I could give it a try. But more importantly, their joint to the hub is very fragile, so bending them now would entail detaching them from the hub and removing superglue and white glue from them, and regluing them after bending. Since I don't have firm 'handles' anymore on the hubs (I snipped them to small 'attachment pins' after construction), I will leave it as is this time. But I'll certainly keep it in mind for the next time! Thanks!
The model is ready for painting at this time, so I should be taking some overview pics of it soon.
Cheers,
Marijn
Re: 1/700 Amagi diorama
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 10:22 am
by Martocticvs
Extemely hard to believe this is 1/700 scale when looking through the photos. Magnificent work so far; looking forward to seeing how a coat of paint brings it all together.
Re: 1/700 Amagi diorama
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 10:43 pm
by Aur
Very welcomed, Marijn! (EJ is the absolute expert at this, so you can ask him as well

) Indeed the stainless PE is difficult to work with, especially at this scale. Brass shim might be easier, but then you have more work cutting individual blades, which surely isn't easy. I have no experience in the scale nor method, so just a suggestion! I'm sure you know how to deal with it. Anyway the ones you made are already very good.
Really looking forward to seeing the model painted! Also let us know which photo is the real thing and which the model!
Aur
Re: 1/700 Amagi diorama
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 5:20 am
by marijn van gils
Re: 1/700 Amagi diorama
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 5:30 am
by hypno7
Wow...
That is really incredible Marijn... absolutely no words. The damage looks already realistic, and that is without paint.
Unbelivable, I wish I can see your diorama in the future!
Re: 1/700 Amagi diorama
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:59 am
by Stefano Salesi
well..this is...hum...err...
i mean, is this even legal?????
fantastic to say the least.
Re: 1/700 Amagi diorama
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:15 pm
by zs180
Besides being perfectly executed to the tiniest detail, this diorama stunningly displayes perfect proportions and a very tasteful arrangement. It just doesn't get any better than this...
Re: 1/700 Amagi diorama
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:48 pm
by MartinJQuinn
hypno7 wrote:The damage looks already realistic, and that is without paint.
I was thinking the same thing!
Stefano Salesi wrote:i mean, is this even legal?????
Hahahahahaha! Good point.
Re: 1/700 Amagi diorama
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 5:33 pm
by Pieter
Stefano Salesi wrote:i mean, is this even legal?????
Hahahahahaha! Good point.[/quote]
The mediocrity police is tracking you as we speak!
Re: 1/700 Amagi diorama
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:26 pm
by Wordy
Looks amazing, you are doing a fantastic job!
Might be a bit early, but I wanna plant the seed for your next project, HMS Warspite when she ran aground on her way to the breakers yard.

Re: 1/700 Amagi diorama
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:46 pm
by robn1
This just raises the bar...and more than just one level too...
Re: 1/700 Amagi diorama
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 8:02 pm
by Joe Simon
The bar is officially raised!!

Re: 1/700 Amagi diorama
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 8:20 pm
by Goodwood
The bar has reached suborbital heights.
About the only way Marijn could've done any better would be if he'd had a squad of miniaturized shipyard workers at his disposal...
Re: 1/700 Amagi diorama
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 8:59 pm
by Dan K
Yours is an incredibly fine piece of modeling, Marijn. Truly marvelous.
Re: 1/700 Amagi diorama
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:21 am
by Aop Aur
Re: 1/700 Amagi diorama
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 1:40 pm
by Rob-UK
This is exceptional work; a really great concept, and is being really well delivered!
I'll keep avidly watching with interest.
Re: 1/700 Amagi diorama
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:01 pm
by JIM BAUMANN
breathtakingly superb...!
paint... now that is where its at!
watching with great interest!
JB
Re: 1/700 Amagi diorama
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:04 pm
by JIM BAUMANN
thread Hijack alert!
@ Wordy--ref Warspite aground at Prussia Cove...
have a look here
http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... index.html
regards
JB
Re: 1/700 Amagi diorama
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:29 am
by marijn van gils
Stefano Salesi wrote:i mean, is this even legal?????
Are all those superlative compliments even legal?
Many thanks for all the nice words everyone!
zs180 wrote:Besides being perfectly executed to the tiniest detail, this diorama stunningly displayes perfect proportions and a very tasteful arrangement. It just doesn't get any better than this...
Many thanks George! As I see myself as a diorama modeller before ship modeller (or any other subject for that matter), this is very important to me!
But at the same time it is always challenging, as with modelling it is too easy to lose oneself in the details, and this especially true with ship modelling. And working from historic photo's can sometimes also be a trap to end up with a less than ideal composition...
Aop Aur wrote:What did you use to sculpt the land? It looks so good. Maybe I should stop guessing around and buy some modelling magazines!
Well, modelling magazines can certainly be helpful, but they also don't provide all the answers instantly...
Anyway, the basic height of the island was built up with a couple of layers of plastic sheet. Then I added a layer of Magic Sculp putty to get close to the actual slightly undulating relief. The 'soil' is a thin layer of a mixture of wood glue and ceramic plaster (just the dry powder, no water), in which varying amounts of grit (dried and ground ceramic plaster) was mixed to get a lumpy and textured paste. I kept it more smooth for the top surface and more 'lumpy for the waterside. Loose debris was strewn on top of this and fixed with watered down wood glue.
I guess I should do a photo-step-by-step on this, but first I have to find the time for that...
Wordy wrote:Might be a bit early, but I wanna plant the seed for your next project, HMS Warspite when she ran aground on her way to the breakers yard.
That's a great idea!

But Frank already beat me to it... haha!
Still a great idea, but I must admit at the moment I am more tempted by those WWI German Battlecruisers when they were towed away belly up. But the next project will be something else anyway! It will involve battle damage...

That's a great diorama by the way! I love Franks' work...
JIM BAUMANN wrote:paint... now that is where its at!
I couldn't agree more!
This one will take a bit of time, but it should be a lot of fun.
Cheers,
Marijn