Calling all Yamato (大和) and Musashi (武蔵) fans

[Dick J]

Would anyone happen to know or guess at what the object that in in front of the port secondary mount is? A mooring buoy?

Back to the earlier question - I haven't been following this thread for awhile. If the photo was taken during trials, chances are that it is a water tank. IJN ships were known to run trials with them to ensure that the displacement, trim, and GM matched normal operating figures when testing performance. When the ships became operational, they would have full ammo and fuel loads, and the water tanks would be removed.

[bucketfoot-al]

Would anyone happen to know or guess at what the object that in in front of the port secondary mount is? A mooring buoy?

Back to the earlier question - I haven't been following this thread for awhile. If the photo was taken during trials, chances are that it is a water tank. IJN ships were known to run trials with them to ensure that the displacement, trim, and GM matched normal operating figures when testing performance. When the ships became operational, they would have full ammo and fuel loads, and the water tanks would be removed.

I nominate your post for the "Informative Post of The Day" award.

This is something I never knew before that puts the relevant photo in a completely different light.

[Dan K]

Well, that's why I put all 35 new photos in - AT THE VERY END. (Cause I'm an EXPERT at human nature. )

See, I knew I could count on you.

Btw, this one may be worth adding. Unfortunately, I don't have a hi-rez version. This is post Leyte Gulf, back at Brunei. Yamato is in the lower right.

[bucketfoot-al]

Well, that's why I put all 35 new photos in - AT THE VERY END. (Cause I'm an EXPERT at human nature. )

See, I knew I could count on you.

Btw, this one may be worth adding. Unfortunately, I don't have a hi-rez version. This is post Leyte Gulf, back at Brunei. Yamato is in the lower right.

THANK YOU!!! (Though you are QUITE mistaken ... because when I clicked on the photo it opened up HUGE!!! Easy to make out the ships and the identification scribbled on the photo) ...

... so these are the remnants of the Imperial Fleet after their massacre at Leyte .... licking their wounds before heading home ... something a little pathetic about the picture ....

Oh yes - I will DEFINITELY be adding it to the gallery!!


P.S. Here is my "cut and paste" of "Our Girl" from the photo:

[bucketfoot-al]

Big thanks today are also due to Christian van der Sanden, who graciously took the time to send me a quite thorough list of additional info on ship and location ID for many, many photos on the Yamato Web Gallery. He also helped me to correct several of the Yamato/Musashi deck & superstructure diagrams.

The site is now as "ship shape" as its ever been - and I appreciate the input given to me over the years by all other enthusiasts and historians to help me fill in the details.

I invite you once again to come on over and peruse the dozens of new additions just made to the Gallery over the weekend.

[Dan K]

Veryfire annoucement of their new 1/350 Yamato kit: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=37762&p=1044850#p1044850

[TZoli]

For me your Yamato site does not load.

Proxy Error
The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server.
The proxy server could not handle the request GET /index.album.

Reason: Could not connect to remote machine: Connection refused

[bucketfoot-al]

For me your Yamato site does not load.

Proxy Error
The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server.
The proxy server could not handle the request GET /index.album.

Reason: Could not connect to remote machine: Connection refused

Yeah - I know. The Lycos servers have been "buggy" since February. I have submitted numerous help request tickets but have received no reply.

Some days its up - other days you get "Proxy Error" messages. Last time I saw it up was 3 days ago.

All I can advise you to do is - keep checking periodically. I have no control over it.

[TZoli]

I suggest saving all the stuff, photos, texts, links etc if the server dies. So you would not became like the old warahip projects forum.

[bucketfoot-al]

For me your Yamato site does not load.

FYI: The Yamato website is back up as of this morning.

[katana]

Post Scriptum

Gentlemen,
Today, I proudly present you the finished Yamato Rigging Guide.
In 34 different rigging procedures and 344 pictures, I exposed the origin, trajectory and destination of Cables and Cords, Insulators and Lanterns, Brackets and Lug Rings in all the different areas on Yamato�s Rigging Manual.
In all these chapters, the location of qty = 146 Brown Ball Insulators and qty = 39 White Bar Insulators have been unveiled with corresponding text and pictures.
Let me tell you : it was quite a challenge during all those years but I did it with a lot of pleasure.

The articles : Terminology.
I am the first person to admit that these rigging steps can not be read like a novel.
Explaining how cables run from point A to point B, and all the unforeseen problems that show-up during that process is a challenge. It takes a special kind of language to explain problems to people and to simplify the description in a comprehensible way. To do so, you need to use technical terms and expressions.
That�s the main reason why all the rigging steps are written this way.
And repeating some words and terms countless times to avoid misunderstandings is a big part of the job.
So, yes, these articles are not meant to be read like a novel.

The Indicator Colours (arrows/ stripes/lines/circles/ tags).
You all noticed I did use a lot of different colours for these Indicators. Why so many different colours ?
Very simple : because of all the pictures I used in the Yamato Rigging Guide, there are not 2 alike when we talk about clarity or exposure. It�s possible that in a same picture, 1 single object needs different colours of indicators. And then I forget to talk about the back-ground colour which can differ a lot in the same picture. Changing background colours are a nightmare when you want to clarify an object in a picture ! So that�s the reason for so many different indicator colours: for clarity and contrast.
A little side-notice : as far it was possible, I tried to use Yellow Colour for Port side rigging and Blue or Light-Blue Colour for starboard side rigging. Did not always worked out like I wanted but sometimes it did. Good Colour codes make it much easier to understand pictures.

2024 : A brand new destination for the Yamato Rigging Guide.
When in jan 2024, I restarted making articles for the Yamato Rigging Guide, some clever & forward thinking people of this site proposed me to publish my articles in the Tips and Tricks Section of the Ship Model Forum.
The reason for this proposal was to avoid that all Yamato rigging steps would be buried in the numerous articles of the 160 + pages � calling all Yamato fans� section.
Consequently, all the rigging steps moved to the Tipps and Tricks section of the Ship Model Forum. If you go to that location you can easily find the Yamato Rigging Guide.
And the following address brings you to the first page of it : viewtopic.php?f=4&t=383204

2024 articles.
Since my restart in jan 2024, the following rigging articles were newly created & published :

Main Chapter 02. BRIDGE
02.07. Rigging Connecting Cables from Main Yards to Mid Yard.

Main Chapter 03. MIDSHIP
03.00. Mast Assembly Part 1.
03.00. Mast Assembly Part 2.
03.01. Rigging MC1&4 from Main Yard tips to Side Mast tips.
03.02. Rigging Cable Nr 9 from aft SLPF to Side Mast Lower Lugs.
03.03. Rigging MC 2&3 from Main yards 60cm Searchlight Platform to the Main Mast.
03.04. Rigging Funnel Attachments.
03.05. Rigging 2 cables from Side Mast Arm tips to Main mast Lower lugs.
03.06. Rigging Connection Cable between the 2 Side Mast Arms.
03.07. White Cord from Mainmast tip-Pulley to 40cm Searchlight Platform � Vice Admirals flag.

Main Chapter 04. REAR RANGE FINDER (RRF)
04.00. Rear Range Finder (RRF) Rigging
04.01. White Cord from RRF Front Pulley to Junction Beam Pulley � IJN Navy Flag & Samourai Banner.
04.02. White Cord from RRF Bracket Nr 4 to Aft Beam Upper Triangle � The 3 odd Lanterns.
04.03. White Cord from RRF Brackets Nr 1 to Triangles on Side Mast Arms.
04.04. Cables RRF Brackets Nr 4&2 to the Connection Line between the 2 Side Mast Arms.
04.05. Cables RRF Brackets Nr 3 to the Upper Triangle Aft Beam.
04.06. Cables RRF Brackets Nr 2 to the Side Mast Upper Lugs.

Main Chapter 05. AFT SHIP
05.00. Aft Ship Rigging .
05.01. MC1&4 Double Split above the Aft Ship.
05.02. Cables to the Aft 155mm Gun Antenna.
05.03. Cables to AAA Platform Front Railing Brackets.
05.04. Loose cable from AAA Platform Front Railing Brackets to Structure Wall.
05.05. Stretched Wire from Side Mast Arm tips to Second Level Deck.

Main Chapter 06. STERN
06.00. Rigging MC1&4 above Stern up to Jackstaff.

And what about the original 2017 articles?
Creating new articles, from jan 2024 on, had a positive consequence : I was able to use more advanced computer techniques than I did in 2017. Nothing more than a time-related advantage.
But when I compared the 2024 publications with the 2017 articles, I saw an immense quality gap. A gap that needed to be filled.
So I decided to revise every article I published in 2017 and if necessary to adapt text and pictures accordingly.
Since end april 2024, all the 2017 articles were revised & corrected.
The visual indicators, or more precisely : the complete lack of them, is the reason why many new pictures were added, but this time with comprehensible arrows, circles , lines and tags.
A lot of text in the articles disappeared where I judged it to be obsolete and when it was not contributing to the rigging subject. I�m afraid that in 2017, I sometimes took the discussion too far away from the rigging subject.
The result today is that the 2017 articles are conform to the 2024 standards, shorter and showing more accurate pictures with comprehensible indicators, arrows and tags than before.
I consider this as a progress.

Any questions or remarks ?
I repeat myself from my first article on 04 march 2017 when I say that I�m not an expert. Not even close.
So it is possible that somebody, (an expert for instance) might discover errors or mistakes in my articles. I take that into account, already since 2017.
If such happens, may I ask you to send me a message via Ship Model Forum so we can solve the problem and make sure that the Yamato Fans receive correct data ?
Needless to tell you that every serious matter will lead to a correction of the relevant articles by myself.

Thanks

For all the people that gave me positive comments for my rigging articles : Thank you.
I highly appreciated your posts & private messages during the making of the Yamato Rigging Guide.

I also want to thank Baseballbrat and Dan K. for their good advice and interventions when my knowledge and my aging eagle-eye came too short.
Thanks Jim! Thanks Dan K! You helped me very well�

When the publication button was jammed and the �next -to -be-published� articles were stuck in the pipeline, Dan K and Jim Baumann helped me several times out of my problems.
Thanks Dan ! & Thanks Jim for repairing the pipeline�

And I may not forget to mention Rob Wood. Everybody that followed the different rigging steps in Yamato�s Rigging Guide has certainly looked at some of Robs pictures without knowing it.
Thanks Rob, for allowing me to use your pictures. Today you can see they all served the right cause�

At last, I want to thank the guy- or lady that invented the snipshot technology. You can not imagine what an ease that ment for me when I was preparing detail pictures for my articles.
Have a beer on me, snipshot guy- or Lady, wherever you may be !!

I hope sincerely that you all enjoyed the Yamato Rigging Guide.

It�s time for me to weigh the anchor.
And there is only one more thing left to say :

Gentlemen,
Have a nice day.

[baseballbrat]

Katana,

Thanks again for taking on this difficult subject. Now the world of ship modelers have an accurate guide to Yamato's rigging. I had been looking for rigging photos for many years and now we all have a guide to follow during our builds.

On a side note..........

Up coming are 2 new Yamato kits in 1:350.

Very Fire IJN Yamato (Regular and Deluxe) Due out June 2024.

Border Model IJN Yamato (to be announced)

As we all know, You can never have enough Yamato kits in our stash. I have 4.

TIA

Jim

PS: I'm not a computer savvy guy, but I have a question.......
Anyone know how to set this rigging post up so when you google it online it appears in the search results. Kind of like a sticky that you can access quickly. Others looking for this information may have difficulty finding this. I tried to search for this and nothing showed up as of today. Any ideas?

[katana]

Katana,
Thanks again for taking on this difficult subject. Now the world of ship modelers have an accurate guide to Yamato's rigging. I had been looking for rigging photos for many years and now we all have a guide to follow during our builds.
On a side note..........
Up coming are 2 new Yamato kits in 1:350.
Very Fire IJN Yamato (Regular and Deluxe) Due out June 2024.
Border Model IJN Yamato (to be announced)
As we all know, You can never have enough Yamato kits in our stash. I have 4.
TIA, Jim

Hello Jim,

" You can never have enough Yamato kits in your stash. I have 4."----------> Hahahahaha , Indeed, you're right : I got 2 ea 1/200 Nichimo's and 1 Glow2be Yamato's .
In 1/350, the old , simple model Tamiya Yamato ( with the Movie poster on the box) and 1 old Musashi.
A lot of work for the future. But that's why we're doing it , no ?

Cheers

[katana]

Katana,

PS: I'm not a computer savvy guy, but I have a question.......
Anyone know how to set this rigging post up so when you google it online it appears in the search results. Kind of like a sticky that you can access quickly. Others looking for this information may have difficulty finding this. I tried to search for this and nothing showed up as of today. Any ideas?

Hi Jim,
seems my previous answer was not applicable to your question : if people GOOGLE Yamato rigging guide , they could end up with the pages in the Tipps and tricks section, no ?
I tried it myself and nothing points to the Ship Model Forum.
Frankly , I have no clue how the different pages of Yamato Rigging Guide can be referred to via Google.

Katana

[cplchanb]

Katana,
Thanks again for taking on this difficult subject. Now the world of ship modelers have an accurate guide to Yamato's rigging. I had been looking for rigging photos for many years and now we all have a guide to follow during our builds.
On a side note..........
Up coming are 2 new Yamato kits in 1:350.
Very Fire IJN Yamato (Regular and Deluxe) Due out June 2024.
Border Model IJN Yamato (to be announced)
As we all know, You can never have enough Yamato kits in our stash. I have 4.
TIA, Jim

Hello Jim,

" You can never have enough Yamato kits in your stash. I have 4."----------> Hahahahaha , Indeed, you're right : I got 2 ea 1/200 Nichimo's and 1 Glow2be Yamato's .
In 1/350, the old , simple model Tamiya Yamato ( with the Movie poster on the box) and 1 old Musashi.
A lot of work for the future. But that's why we're doing it , no ?

Cheers

yea i have the new tool tamiya yamato along with the pontos sets.

i wonder how the 2 new ones from china will stack up to japanese engineering...

[Timmy C]

Unfortunately, Google's search indexing system seems unable or unwilling to look in this forum. That didn't use to be the case, so I don't know what's changed.

However, other search engines like Bing does work with this forum, and searching there for the Yamato Rigging Guide will show this forum's guide at the top.

[baseballbrat]

I'm convinced that we are all getting hoodwinked thinking google is the cure all for searches. If we want to find things fast and accurate I suggest using Bing. If we want to waste time and frustrate yourself use google.

[ijnfleetadmiral]

MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT:

COLOR VIDEO FOOTAGE of YAMATO during her final days has been FOUND!!!

https://www.yomiuri.co.jp/stream/3/23441/1/

[bucketfoot-al]

MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT:

COLOR VIDEO FOOTAGE of YAMATO during her final days has been FOUND!!!

https://www.yomiuri.co.jp/stream/3/23441/1/

Holy Cow - there was bound to be some footage buried in an archive SOMEWHERE ... now if only some USN footage from her April 7 1945 attack/sinking could be unearthed ... there has got be some footage shot by all those attacking planes ...

According to Google Translation, this footage was shot from USN aircraft while the ship was under attack at Kure on 19 March 1945.


Thank you for posting!!!

[cplchanb]

MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT:

COLOR VIDEO FOOTAGE of YAMATO during her final days has been FOUND!!!

https://www.yomiuri.co.jp/stream/3/23441/1/

Holy Cow - there was bound to be some footage buried in an archive SOMEWHERE ... now if only some USN footage from her April 7 1945 attack/sinking could be unearthed ... there has got be some footage shot by all those attacking planes ...

According to Google Translation, this footage was shot from USN aircraft while the ship was under attack at Kure on 19 March 1945.


Thank you for posting!!!

IIRC i remember reading that the footage plane was coincidentally one of the few aircraft that were shot down in Ten Ichigo... shame...