Calling all Oliver Hazard Perry-class FFG fans

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Hi all,

And thanks very much before anything else for your kind remarks on my work.

navydavesof wrote:He seems to like scratch building anyway. It is a phenomenal build, and I would love to achieve such accomplished detail some day.
Dave, I find scratch building very rewarding, and not that difficult. After all it�s only plastic. PE�s can give much detailing at times, but everything in them is flat, for obvious reasons, therefore many elements look better when scratch built rather than made using PE�s, simply because, as in the case of masts, they have volume.

Very best regards,

Willie.
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And hi all once again,:

Here you are an update of my F81 Santa Maria.

I have already made and set in place the wind deflectors in the bridge wings, using Evergreen stripes and tubing, filed and sanded to the right measures. They are now like this :
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Along with the derricks previously done and already set in place -- no glue yet -- as well, the front bulkhead of the structure is like this :
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The comparison with the original shows that the result is not that bad :
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I have added as well as many details to the bulkheads as I have been able to. These bulkheads look empty, but gosh, you realize they are not empty at all when making the elements for them... Everything is stretched sprue and Evergreen stripes and rods. The placing of the atomic wash was quite tedious, because the pipes are extremely fine, and have to be cut very precisely when they cross the other pipes on the bulkheads, so that they do not look like cut or interrupted -- and the effect is realistic.

After this, I think the bulkheads are already ready to paint.

Port :
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And Starboard:
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And that�s all for now. I hope you like it, and very best regards from Spain,

Willie.[/size]
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Excellent as always, Willie!
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Hi again,

A general pic of the bulkheads with the details finished in these days :
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And a couple of pics with everything present :
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And some general details :

Port :
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And starboard:
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And now -- at last !!! -- it does look like F81 Santa Maria.

Very best regards from Spain,

Wilie.[/size]
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Absolutely stunning work!! Just as an FYI the red danger circle around the weapons systems extend 12 inches beyond the furthermost projection (like the nose of the missile or end of the gun muzzle), at least on US ships it does.
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Hi Gunner and all,

Reg. your remark :
Mk 75 Gunner wrote: Just as an FYI the red danger circle around the weapons systems extend 12 inches beyond the furthermost projection (like the nose of the missile or end of the gun muzzle), at least on US ships it does.
I have double checked my picture files and you are very right : It is the same in the Spanish Navy, and I have made a mistake. But with all the forecastle finished and painted, I don�t think it is such a blunder as to make necessary to repaint the whole thing, so I will let it be, and will be aware for the next time with the OTO-Melara and next ships I build. My fault, because I should have remembered it from my own time in the Navy.

I have already made the chaff launchers, using a Evergreen rod. I tried to cut the rod at the right angles, but after some testing I was not able to get the same angle ( aprox. 30�) over and over again, so I decided to use the so to say "Infantry mortar ball base system" as easy as to sand the bottom of a rod, cut it to the right measure :
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Then I had simply to set the tube in the middle in place and attach the other two, add a tiny drop of poly, and done. As easy as can be, and all the sets are identical :
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I hope you like it, and very best regards from acroos the oceans,

Willie.[/size]
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Hi all,

A friend modeller in the Spanish forum has let me know that the decoy launchers were mistaken in shape and tube orientation. They are actually like this :
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Obviously I had been first using a pic that gave me a false perspective. I have made these pieces again, using the same method, and they are now much better, I think. To round the base of the tubes allows to place them in whatever angle :
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Very best regards from Spain,

Wilie.[/size]
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Just received my Yankee Modelworks Perry P/E set in the mail (pic will follow soon) This is a great addition to the WEM set as it has both masts, radio aerials, accom ladders, and lots of other bits to bring up the detail level. Only 2 complaints so far, one is that the instruction sheet is a bit vague in both steps needed and drawings. Second one is that the sheet lists bridge wing gratings but they are NOT on the P/E and some parts on the P/E are NOT listed at all in the instructions i.e. "Whale Boat supports" It should be fun to figure this one out :doh_1: I'll let you know how it goes together.

This is the Yankee set
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This is the WEM set
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The Yankee radar is a bit "thicker"
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The WEM radar for comparison
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The Yankee instructions for the radar
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The WEM instructions
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Again, Thanks for looking :smallsmile:
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There's some nice pieces in both sets, I wish I'd taken a pic of the MK1 set before I hacked into it! It has replacement doors for every position, all the railings, very nice ladders which I used extensively, new steps and lockers for the bases of the satcom aerials, as well as flight deck netting.

The radar posts are very finely etched, and I combined the transmitter arm with the WEM radar. The flight deck nets are better than WEM's, and the extra parts like the aerial posts and some of the railings are also better choices.

I'll see if I can post some pictures, I would thoroughly recommend the MK1 option as a supplement to the WEM set, and it would make a perfectly acceptable standalone detail set for the kit.
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Where do you get this Mk1 set? I'm new to this forum so not totally up to speed on terms and sites.
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The Mk1/KA Models set is from Korea - you may have to look it up under both names if one or the other is not on the list at a particular store.
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One vendor I've had good experiences with is LuckyModel; they have the set here. The one caveat with them is that their status of "available" is different than "in stock." "Available means not in stock, but they can order from the manufacturer still. That will tack on extra time.
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Hi folks, it was me earlier about the MK1 set, I got mine direct from Korea off ebay.

I took some pics with my phone:

Radar details:
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Flight deck netting hinge points and watertight doors, ladders etc:
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Railings and mscellaneous fittings:
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Helicopter parts, aerial posts and satcom antenna details:
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Cast metal liferaft canisters:
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Instruction sheets and built up model pictures:
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Thanks for the pics! Was this set expensive? I'm thinking of getting this one also because it has the hatches and doors I've been looking for. I have never worked with P/E so this should be an interesting build. Have you gotten any of the extra resin parts? Did your model have any damage to the fo'c'sle area? mine had broken stringers and such. I am still working on the hull to get it right and still looking for the proper helo for the Perry.
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Mk 75 Gunner wrote:Thanks for the pics! Was this set expensive? I'm thinking of getting this one also because it has the hatches and doors I've been looking for. I have never worked with P/E so this should be an interesting build. Have you gotten any of the extra resin parts? Did your model have any damage to the fo'c'sle area? mine had broken stringers and such. I am still working on the hull to get it right and still looking for the proper helo for the Perry.
The set cost about $22 posted from Korea, but it took about 10 days to arrive. (The kit cost $20 and took 3 days!). The brass is quite fine and needs care detaching and working with the railings. I used the WEM SPS-49 radar dish and stand which was the right size (perhaps a bit too big) as the MK1 version was exactly the same size as the kit radar (too small). But i did use some of the MK1 radar components with the WEM dish as they looked better.
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This is the bridge area almost finished with PE railings and scratchbuilt Nulkas. I removed the lookout platforms and have to add 50cal mounts.
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It's shaping up to be a really nice kit.
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The PE doors in the MK1 set are a godsend as i have to open up a few of the portside doors to fit in with the diorama idea.

I also got all your Veteran models resin parts plus the RHIB. I used WEM resin Phalanx CIWS (overscale and needed superdetailing - I since got some Veteran Models ones, much better) but as I'm doing a modern Perry I am using the kit SH-60 with PE from both sets.

My kit was just about perfect with no casting defects. I guess you got unlucky with yours but you did a stand-up job improving it.

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Mk 75 Gunner wrote:Just received my Yankee Modelworks Perry P/E set in the mail (pic will follow soon) This is a great addition to the WEM set as it has both masts, radio aerials, accom ladders, and lots of other bits to bring up the detail level. Only 2 complaints so far, one is that the instruction sheet is a bit vague in both steps needed and drawings. Second one is that the sheet lists bridge wing gratings but they are NOT on the P/E and some parts on the P/E are NOT listed at all in the instructions i.e. "Whale Boat supports" It should be fun to figure this one out :doh_1: I'll let you know how it goes together.
Be aware, too, that the masts of the FFGS are round (tubular) and not flat as in the PE.

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Yes, I am thinking of using the kits masts with P/E parts, I have been working on the radar mast and it is a PIA to get together, none of the tabs fit the notches, it will need LOTS of tweaking.
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Mk 75 Gunner wrote:Yes, I am thinking of using the kits masts with P/E parts, I have been working on the radar mast and it is a PIA to get together, none of the tabs fit the notches, it will need LOTS of tweaking.
You are correct. I, too, struggled through assembling the masts and nothing lined up. If I ever do another one I'll probably scratch build the masts. At that scale, the flat PE just doesn't work for me.

Simple alignment of parts fit is the type of thing you wish the manufacturer would check before releasing a kit.

Good luck!
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Saying that, the kit parts don't exactly fall together either - some careful alignment and planning will be required!

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I'd love to see this kit done by Dragon to the standards of their recent offerings. It would be an awesome kit!
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