cplchanb wrote:
IIRC i remember reading that the footage plane was coincidentally one of the few aircraft that were shot down in Ten Ichigo... shame...
Apparently so. Japanese accounts I read (Yoshida primarily) state that several USN planes observing Yamato's death throes were blown out of the sky by her explosion. IJNFleetAdmiral messaged me earlier (in part):
"There was film footage taken during the final battle by USN planes. However, the plane shooting the footage got too close when she rolled over and blew up, and took severe shrapnel damage from the explosion. It managed to escape, but was tragically forced to ditch later; the pilot and crew were saved, but all the film footage was lost."
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TZoli wrote:My Friend recently shared this image with me.
Apparently Yamato in 1945 but we do not know if it's Real, Model or the worst, AI generated image....
I would strongly doubt it is real. I see several things on the rear deck that are wrong right off the bat in terms of both shapes and missing features. Quality is crap - which is a "tried and true" tactic for masking the fact that the ship's features are superimposed onto a photo of a real ship in dock.
Even IF it was real (and I am 99.9% convinced it is NOT), the quality is so poor as to render it useless as a reference.
I wish people would just stop trying to pass off shots of models as the real thing. (And usually it is not the modeler who does this - but some other individual who takes the modeler's photo and "repurposes" it.)
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TZoli wrote:My Friend recently shared this image with me.
Apparently Yamato in 1945 but we do not know if it's Real, Model or the worst, AI generated image....
I would strongly doubt it is real. I see several things on the rear deck that are wrong right off the bat in terms of both shapes and missing features.
Can you name a few?
Also note the horizontal interlacing lines suggesting it was from a Video.
Also note the horizontal interlacing lines suggesting it was from a Video.
Outside of the strong "model vibe" I am getting - particularly when looking at the rear turret - the AA mount on the rear wood deck is the wrong shape and the OTHER one, located more to the inside and farther down the wood deck - is missing completely. See the 4 arrows pointing to these mounts in this March 1945 photo from the Kure bombing.
The round shapes of the AA tubs farther up the deck and also of the two tubs on top of the #3 turret are also a "dead give-away", as these AA gun emplacements were mounted directly to the deck or the turret and were shielded by an open 5-sided metal shield that looks more triangular in shape and is open in the rear.
Now that I've looked at it more closely, it is 100% a model - right up to the "sandbags" that are conveniently visible around some of the gun emplacements.
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Bottom pic (Feb. 16, 1942) shows, I think, GF staff with the imperial aide-de-camp VADM Samejima Tomoshige (37 ki, center front row, holding his sword) seated between Yamamoto & Ugaki, who visited the flagship that day & offered congratulations on the fall of Singapore...
There are a lot of Yamato kits out there but these are head scratchers.
What's the difference in these versions......
KII
Phantom Yamato
Super Yamato
I know that KII was a supersize version, but the other two I can't find any information on. All I know that all three had 2 gun turrets.
TIA
Jim
Kii: the name Fujimi gave to their latest kit of the never-built 20"-gun Yamato, aka "Super Yamato"
Super Yam: generic name for Yamato armed with 20" guns
Phantom Yam: Fujimi's translation of never-built ship
So you'll see "Phantom Battleship Super Yamato" on Fujimi's older kit (first released 2013) of the 20" gun Yamato. Kii is the new kit using new moulds for their normal Yamato.
What is the armament of these kits? Because the 51cm guns are featured for the Yamato upgun proposals: 3x2 51cm, 2x3 15,5cm and 12x2 12,7 or 10cm. The A-150 or Super Yamato is mysterious, mo concrete info avaliable so the interpretations are wide:
Simple repeat Yamatos with
3x2 51cm and
2x3 15,5cm or 2x2 or 2x3 20cm
and 12-14-16x2 10cm
Or no cruiser calibre it's place is removed or occupied with 1-1 twin 10cm guns
Enlarged Yamatos with
4x2 51cm
2-4x triple 15,5cm or twin or triple 20cm
Same 10cm as above
There are a lot of Yamato kits out there but these are head scratchers.
What's the difference in these versions......
KII
Phantom Yamato
Super Yamato
I know that KII was a supersize version, but the other two I can't find any information on. All I know that all three had 2 gun turrets.
TIA
Jim
Kii: the name Fujimi gave to their latest kit of the never-built 20"-gun Yamato, aka "Super Yamato"
Super Yam: generic name for Yamato armed with 20" guns
Phantom Yam: Fujimi's translation of never-built ship
So you'll see "Phantom Battleship Super Yamato" on Fujimi's older kit (first released 2013) of the 20" gun Yamato. Kii is the new kit using new moulds for their normal Yamato.
My question is.........
Are the other two (Phantom and Super) Just variants of KII?
They're all depicting a Yamato hull armed with 51cm main guns and 10cm secondary guns, just different moulds. The storyline as to whether it's meant to be Yamato/Musashi with a gun upgrade or an entirely Yamato hull built with those guns from the start is uncertain. Regardless, the difference from a kit perspective is that the Phantom/Super kit uses an older Yamato mould, while Kii uses the newer Yamato mould from Fujimi's "Fune Next" line.
Interested to hear any comments comparing it to the Tamiya new-tool. One oddity of detail I observe is the magazine for the single 25mm guns (last image: https://www.kfs-miniatures.com/storage/IMG_9616-1.jpg): what should be two holes are depicted here as two raised bumps, which is disappointing.
Interesting how it and the Very Fire one compares to the Tamiya one! Very Fire is North of �300, bet Border is the same. Was wondering when 3D stuff would appear as part of a kit
Details on Border's Yamato are on their Facebook, but I've reuploaded the images here: https://imgur.com/a/mSsq1tn
They're too tall/long to upload directly to the forum.
But the short of it is that they advertise fewer parts than the competing options, leveraging 3D printing for a lot more components including railings on some parts. Less reliance on PE and greater use of 4-way slide moulds to reduce part counts.
Basically, they're trying to optimize "most detail for the least work".
Looks like this one is embracing 3D printing... the main gun rangefinders are all printed. a pleasant surprise if I may say.
*Damn*!!! And to think I had to drill and insert all of those tiny AAA barrels into every single mount on my customized 1/200 Nichimo Yam ... and here they come pre-printed with the gun assemblies/turrets!!!
Its almost like ... CHEATING!!! ...
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