Calling all Russian submarine fans

[redoctober27]

Here is my work in progress page for my russian fleet! Check it out And feel free to give me tips and your opinions ! viewtopic.php?f=59&t=152838

[Brad-M]

Hi Everyone,

Can anyone comment on the Zvezda 1/350 scale K-19 (Hotel SSBN) plastic model kit?

TIA

Brad

[Tom Dougherty]

Can anyone comment on the Zvezda 1/350 scale K-19 (Hotel SSBN) plastic model kit?

It's reasonable. The rudder is too small in the horizontal direction, so I filled it in and rescribed. Fit is okay to good, minimal putty is needed. Overall, a decent kit for the price, and the only other choice is resin at a much higher cost!

I have Hotel I and II drawings, if you are interested. Much too big to post here.

[Timmy C]

Micro Mir's 1/350 Project 1910 Kashalot has been released: http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10219874

[Tom Dougherty]

I love the mangled English explanation that accompanies the model:
" At the top of the hull whip antenna is set up again.
It is estimated that the true purpose of this submarine is not the purpose or falsification of the U.S. military SUSOS network."

[Timmy C]

Micro Mir will be releasing a Soviet S-Type submarine in 1/350: http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10233583
As well, a Soviet midget "Sirena": http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10233581

[redoctober27]

Hello I have a question about Russian submarine operations when at sea. I'm curious to know how Russian operate while at see whether their Submarines travel in pairs example a missile sub and a hunter killer sub traveling together as an escort or Do Submarines operate by themselves. Example 1 missiles sub traveling by itself or a hunter killer sub traveling by itself in a Lone-wolf like activities when at sea. Thanks.

[Tom Dougherty]

Submarines travel in pairs example a missile sub and a hunter killer sub traveling together

First, their submarines rarely put to sea in recent years. During the Cold War, US SSNs would trail Russian submarines (particularly SSBNs) for extended periods, so one may surmise that the SSBNs went on extended patrols alone. Certainly when leaving port it is not unusual for an SSN to "sanitize" the region around the departing SSBN (true for Russian and US subs) to check for trailers. Modern SLBMs have such range that it is no longer necessary to travel great distances to be in range, so Russian (and Soviet subs in the 1980s) remained relatively close to Russia in SSBN "bastions" in the Barents Sea, making trailing operations much more challenging.

[redoctober27]

Okay I see thank you very much what about cruise missile Submarines like the Oscar class submarine?

[Brad-M]

So I have my Hobby Boss Victor III assembled and primed, and I don't know how to paint it. I don't think that the instructions are correct, but how is the anti fouling red separated by the black and where is the demarcation? I wish I had a drawing or a decent picture of one just out of the paint shop.

Brad

[redoctober27]

Victor III class Submarines Have red antifoul paint pretty high on the ships if you look on page 13 of this thread there is a great example of victor class III Submarines in drydock. Unlike many russian class class submarines I have seen the red antifouling paint almost in the middle of the submarine unlike The more common black white water line more black and then read just the very bottom of the ships hull.viewtopic.php?f=50&t=34580&start=240

[Brad-M]

Yes, I've seen those; however it misses the important area, and that is the stern.

Brad

[Timmy C]

The second photo in this post shows where the demarcation is on the upper rudder: viewtopic.php?f=50&t=34580&start=240#p569911

I would assume it's simply a horizontal extension from there to the hull.

[redoctober27]

Does anyone know what russia's plans are for the Victor III class? i looked on one site and they said Russia has 8 in service and another site says 4. does anyone know if there are to be over-hulled and upgraded like the Akulas and Sierra classes?

[_viper_]

Gentlemen,

It appears two new subs are on the horizon!

Hobbyboss has just announced this:

(at least it seems they got the twin lower rudders right!)

And last month this:

(don't ask me why they all insist on the Gepard and do not just give us a "standard" Akula II...At least I hope they do better than Bronco)

Still no Sierra though

Redoctober,
your fleet is pretty amazing, one question though: you confirm that on each model there is a recessed line corresponding to the waterline? It sure looks like that in the pics...
For the Victors, it appears that at least two have been very recently "rewamped", not sure what it means though!

[redoctober27]

Yes thats true -viper- there is a indent for the water line on the ship hulls. here are two pics of the papa class hull. one showing the water line and the other showing the mess up i had while trying to add details to the ship :/

[redoctober27]

this is the one where i botched up the drain vents

[Timmy C]

Viper: here's a photo of the Oscar/Kursk sprues from the Shizuoka show in May - http://www.1999.co.jp/blog/img/20130517_hobbyshow31.jpg

(I've had it posted in the Upcoming Releases thread for a while )

[chuck]

I am waiting for a Sierra and a Typhoon in 1/350 from Hobby Boss

[redoctober27]

Does anyone know of a better primer then Tamaya spray preferably that is good for resin? these models I have from polar bear nothing will stick to them!!!! not even the primer paint from tamiya rattle cans won't stick to to them! it literally comes off as if goo at some point!