Calling all IJN Carrier fans (class comparisons)

[thebunkerparodie]

how hard is the hasegawa shinano (to me he seem easier to build than the fujimi one)

[Dan K]

Hasegawa is 1/450 vs Fujimi 1/700. Hasegawa is larger, but the Fujimi is a NEXT (snap-together) kit. Couldn't say.

[KSuM3]

I haven�t built the Fujimi kit, but I can say that the newer Hasegawa 1/450 is way better than the old one that came out decades ago and is the best large scale (larger than 1/700) version out there. This is my second attempt at building the kit because the first one ended in disaster (I was rushed to complete it before a big move). I wish there was a dedicated photo-etch set for it, but I�ve been making do with using parts from other 1/450 photo-etch sets. I�ll post photos when I�m done.

[KSuM3]

Question for the IJN carrier aficionados - what deck markings would Shinano most likely have? I understand this is going to be somewhat debatable given the lack of information. The newer Hasagewa and Fujimi kits have a single dashed line down the flight (consistent with Zuikaku and Zuiho during their fateful sortie to Leyte), but older kits have multiple white lines down the long axis of the deck and the alternating white/red strips at stern end of the flight deck. Or, is this something that is up to interpretation and/or artistic license? Thanks.

[Dan K]

It's all conjecture. She was not operational when sunk, so chances are that final markings were not yet in place.

[KSuM3]

It's all conjecture. She was not operational when sunk, so chances are that final markings were not yet in place.

Makes sense. Thanks for the sanity check!

[KSuM3]

Finally got Hasegawa's 1/450 Shinano done.

[Dan K]

Nice, very clean.

[JackSix]

Hi Sailors,

Just another one on the Shinano. I am currently researching for my next project: the Shinano in 1/1.200. As there are only a couple of photos around, given that she was one of the "secret ships" of the IJN, I am heavily depending on painting & marking guides. In a couple of them, she has some kind of ropes hanging on the hull, as highlighted on the attached painting guide (hope it is visible).

What is it? Is it rolled-up torpedo nets? I have no explanation or clue. Anybody an idea what that is?

Thx a lot, guys.

Jack

[Dan K]

Personally, I think it's artistic license. I see hanging lines like these on a lot of super detailed models, like extra eye candy. However, I don't think you'd see too any loose, hanging lines on board an actual ship underway. Maybe from the boat booms, if not properly secured.

Certainly nothing in the photographic record that I can recall.

[JackSix]

Personally, I think it's artistic license. I see hanging lines like these on a lot of super detailed models, like extra eye candy. However, I don't think you'd see too any loose, hanging lines on board an actual ship underway. Maybe from the boat booms, if not properly secured.

Certainly nothing in the photographic record that I can recall.

Thx, Dan. Doesn't make sense to me either. I would not have any explanation than rolled up torpedo nets, but then the suspensions rods are missing.

Eye, eye

Jack

[MartinJQuinn]

Nice, very clean.

Yes, agreed. That's a big a$$ flight deck.

[Charybdis]

They could be mooring lines in preparation to come along side.

[Mike C]

I have seen lines like that on some larger scale models. Most of them are tethers attached to boats to keep them from drifting off after they've been launched. I have not seen a standard pattern for their use.

[Mike W]

I've noticed Fujimi do a new kit in 1/700 of the Shinano. Other than what I've seen on Hobby Search, can anyone tell me anything about it from experience. It looks gimmicky with it's coloured plastic and stickers but how does it compare to the Tamiya kit? If you leave off the lower hull, is the hull height correct for a waterline model? Any accuracy issues? It's not available here in the UK, so I can't look at one before ordering.

thanks
Mike

[Dan K]

I can only offer the same comments that I made on the NEXT 5500 ton Cl kits.

[Dan K]

A third photo of Shinano has recently come to light, posted below. It's also a reconnaissance photo, taken over Yokosuka, and almost certainly taken between her original launching date of Oct. 6, 1944, and her final exit from that dock on October 28th. We can surmise that because the drydock gate is clearly open.

Original source: https://www.city.yokosuka.kanagawa.jp/8 ... shin04.pdf

[Dan K]

My apologies. Actually, this is not a new photograph, just one a little clearer than previously seen,

[KSuM3]

It is in the Classic Warships Warship Pictorial on Yamato class battleships.

[swimming decoy]

Does anybody know with some certainty whether IJN Taiyo was camouflaged in 1944 and what it looked like? I have seen some diagrams of the experimental camo they were testing, and so I assume that the ship must have received a paint job by 1944....